Reilly's bouncer caught on video hitting patron |
Reilly's bouncer caught on video hitting patron |
Oct 6 2009, 07:32 AM
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I agree with the poster above who says racism is rampant in Michigan City. I was raised there and left as an adult and moved to the Atlanta area. Being away made me realize how horribly racist and segregated Michigan City is. I work for a large company in an affluent area. It is very integrated, as is my neighborhood. There is great respect for people or all races and creeds and cultures. I come back home, and see a city that is very divided on racial lines, and people are openly racist, as demonstrated by the comments on this thread. Michigan City will never succeed as a city until people stop this, accept each other, and put the children and their education first. The Michigan City schools need to become the City's top priority.
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Oct 6 2009, 08:46 AM
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I received a phone call yesterday from the other patron who is in the video. I talked to him before the article, but he didn't want to be a part of the story. Anyway, he basically said I "fanned the flames" of racism here, and went on to say, "I hope you can sleep at night when someone gets shot over this."
Thoughts? Necessary disclaimer: The views expressed in this post are mine and do not necessarily reflect the views of Paxton Media Group.
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Oct 6 2009, 10:43 AM
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Spends WAY too much time at CBTL Group: Admin Posts: 16,425 Joined: 8-December 06 From: Michigan City, IN Member No.: 2 |
That is interesting. I thought it was about as uninflamatory (if that is even a word) as an article like that could have been. Really both sides of the story could have been played up more in an attempt to make the report more inciteful than it really was.
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Oct 6 2009, 11:00 AM
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I received a phone call yesterday from the other patron who is in the video. I talked to him before the article, but he didn't want to be a part of the story. Anyway, he basically said I "fanned the flames" of racism here, and went on to say, "I hope you can sleep at night when someone gets shot over this." Thoughts? Someone posts a you tube video of bouncers beating and kneeing a man in the face on a public street and the newspaper of that town is responsible for fanning the flames? You should sleep very well!!! The people who did the banging should not be sleeping well. They are ready to start shooting next ..huh? No excuses for this type of violence. Thanks for the report!!! |
Oct 6 2009, 02:47 PM
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I can't tell from the video if the entire thing is race driven or not. We don't see what transpired before the camera started rolling, nor do you see the black bouncer who works at the bar. (not that this changes anything) What I do see when watching the video is a guy who apparently has already been "bounced" and the bouncers job is done. What he did afterwards was totally uncalled for, "you wanna play? you wanny play?" Obviously he didn't want to play, he was mellow and with his arms crossed or hands in his pockets. Four punches to the face and boot to the chest? That's crazy and I'd say this guy has every right to own this guy in a court room if he so decides.
As far as racism in M.C. or N.W. Indiana, lol. Yup, it's here. I wasn't born in M.C. but I've been here for a long time and have seen it everywhere. Just the simple fact that the "N" word is tossed around in certain groups is really disturbing. My wife is from CA and she's always shocked when she hears it. It's embarrasing. Last week, my brother was in town and was having some work done by some tradesmen and one guy said something about something be N rigged. It just reminded him of how bass ackwards this region can be sometimes. I simply treat everyone with the respect I'd to receive or the way I'd like people to treat my wife. |
Oct 6 2009, 02:49 PM
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I received a phone call yesterday from the other patron who is in the video. I talked to him before the article, but he didn't want to be a part of the story. Anyway, he basically said I "fanned the flames" of racism here, and went on to say, "I hope you can sleep at night when someone gets shot over this." Thoughts? I think he's crazy but who knows how he views things. I really don't look at this as a race thing, rather an uncalled for beat down. |
Oct 6 2009, 03:24 PM
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I received a phone call yesterday from the other patron who is in the video. I talked to him before the article, but he didn't want to be a part of the story. Anyway, he basically said I "fanned the flames" of racism here, and went on to say, "I hope you can sleep at night when someone gets shot over this." Thoughts? Paraphrasing from 1776, there's never been an issue that's so dangerous it can't be written about. That's ridiculous. As far as racism in MC, I've heard some of the most blatantly racist statements since I've moved here. Shocking stuff. But I don't think those statements are representative of the town at large. This is a relatively diverse city, and there's plenty of examples of friendship and harmony as well. |
Oct 6 2009, 03:27 PM
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Oct 6 2009, 03:29 PM
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I think he's crazy but who knows how he views things. I really don't look at this as a race thing, rather an uncalled for beat down. this whole incident is being investigated by the michigan city police dept and will soon be turned over to laporte county prosecutor's office. As for racism in our community it's been the divider in our town and holds the community back from our full potential. It's also the major issue in our school system. Many teachers don't have a cultural understanding of some people. |
Oct 7 2009, 10:54 PM
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Really Comfortable Group: Members Posts: 1,829 Joined: 11-January 07 From: Kobe, Japan Member No.: 18 |
One word speaks volumes. It so much reminds me of the right wing blogs and talking heads. The 2 Americas theory. I was pretty clear on who "we" are. I don't think most readers were confused by my grammar. How bout this little either/or test to help on clarity. Fill in the blank. WE or WE? _____need to pay higher taxes. _____need to pay lower taxes. _____should allow abortion on demand. _____need to demand health care for ALL. _____need to do all we can to close the borders . _____need to come together to stop the violence. Last I checked EVERY ONE of the people in the Chicago video were a part of "we". I guess not in your world though. One word can also be misinterpreted. I could have been clearer in my request for clarity. If you mean the whole family of man thing, yeah - "we" is appropriate. I chafe at being lumped in with a bunch of lamebrains - even though lamebrains ARE part of "we" as well. So - thanks for clarifying. I agree with you - parts of society, which we ARE a part of - can really suck. |
Oct 8 2009, 09:47 PM
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One word can also be misinterpreted. I could have been clearer in my request for clarity. If you mean the whole family of man thing, yeah - "we" is appropriate. I chafe at being lumped in with a bunch of lamebrains - even though lamebrains ARE part of "we" as well. So - thanks for clarifying. I agree with you - parts of society, which we ARE a part of - can really suck. I am glad we find common ground. I ,however, was not referring to the family of man (whatever that is). I was referring to the USA in general and Michigan City in particular. I too chafe at being lumped in with lamebrains. Also thugs, bums, crooks, and lazy people. Hopefully one day soon the dialog will elevate to a point where the the problems in our society can be addressed with an earnest goal of changing behavior. It cannot continue as is. |
Oct 8 2009, 10:36 PM
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Third person singular as in "one has a police department to call." |
Oct 9 2009, 01:05 AM
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I am glad we find common ground. I ,however, was not referring to the family of man (whatever that is). I was referring to the USA in general and Michigan City in particular. I too chafe at being lumped in with lamebrains. Also thugs, bums, crooks, and lazy people. Hopefully one day soon the dialog will elevate to a point where the the problems in our society can be addressed with an earnest goal of changing behavior. It cannot continue as is. The family of man just means all people - all the people in the US, all the people in MC. I don't think the problem is the dialog - lots of dialog addresses the problems in our society. But that's all it is - dialog. Changing the white hillbillies in the south who think nigger is an acceptable word - or the people who continue to produce the Miss Black America Pageant. How can that goal be facilitated? I personally have no idea - but I truly wonder if it CAN happen. Racism seems pretty ingrained in humans. Is that just what we're used to? Perplexing. |
Oct 9 2009, 05:18 AM
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The family of man just means all people - all the people in the US, all the people in MC. I don't think the problem is the dialog - lots of dialog addresses the problems in our society. But that's all it is - dialog. Changing the white hillbillies in the south who think nigger is an acceptable word - or the people who continue to produce the Miss Black America Pageant. How can that goal be facilitated? I personally have no idea - but I truly wonder if it CAN happen. Racism seems pretty ingrained in humans. Is that just what we're used to? Perplexing. If both of those goals were fulfilled and hiring practices that breed nepotism and homogeneous results continue then we have done nothing. We have never had a dialog on this issue. Results and opportunity based on honest , fair and open processes is what most people want. The N word and beauty pageants are extremely low on my radar (Its not as insulting as it once was because it is a better indication of the USERS mental place than the recipients) ...maybe thats why dialog is important. Why some think these are linchpins to addressing racial progress and others think they are just symptoms of an underlying issue is also perplexing. Nationalism is a human characteristic but the black white stuff is purely an american animal. |
Oct 9 2009, 06:02 AM
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We have never had a dialog on this issue. Is that a joke? Though racism still rears it's ugly head the racial situation in America is far better than it was in, for example, the 50's. This is due in now small part to the on-going dialogue you claim we've never had. |
Oct 9 2009, 06:40 AM
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Is that a joke? Though racism still rears it's ugly head the racial situation in America is far better than it was in, for example, the 50's. This is due in now small part to the on-going dialogue you claim we've never had. I would attribute our VAST improvements on this front to sit ins..marches..brave women and men like JFK,MLK,and sacrifices by thousands of people white and black risking their lives and their jobs resisting intolerant and unrepentant racist people and laws not only in the south. But we regress on this thread and I can and will respect your opinion. I will respectfully agree to disagree. |
Oct 9 2009, 07:49 AM
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Nationalism is a human characteristic but the black white stuff is purely an american animal. I can tell you've never lived outside of the country. While we do have a nasty history of racism, the racism that I saw in Europe was wayyyyy more deep seated and prevalent than in the states. |
Oct 9 2009, 08:34 AM
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Spends WAY too much time at CBTL Group: Admin Posts: 16,425 Joined: 8-December 06 From: Michigan City, IN Member No.: 2 |
http://thenewsdispatch.com/main.asp?Sectio...ArticleID=26250
QUOTE City must show it isn't a racist place I watched the video recently of Mr. Calvin being assaulted outside Reilly's Bar and Grill. Between the noose incidents and now this it shows a deep imbedded hate in this town. If our city officals (Mayor Oberlie) would have taken action when the firefighter hung that noose on city property these problems would not persist. It's hard to defend this town when people say that it is a racist place. When incidents like this continue to be the hot topic in the headlines what else can people say? The only resolution for this matter is that the bouncer is arrested for assault. Technically, in my opinion, this is a hate crime because it falls in line with the other incidents like this. We need to find a way to bring some type of calm to this matter because there are a few African Americans who are a little upset about the matter. Now is the time for somebody in this town to take a stand and prove critics wrong with the criticism about Michigan City being racist. Chris Carter Michigan City |
Oct 9 2009, 08:53 AM
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I just hope the reason the guy quit filming is because he shut the camera down and helped Eryc out.
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Oct 9 2009, 01:34 PM
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Nationalism is a human characteristic but the black white stuff is purely an american animal. All I can say is, "Wow". Put simply, mean reversion is a bitch. -Vitaliy Katsenelson
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