Reilly's bouncer caught on video hitting patron |
Reilly's bouncer caught on video hitting patron |
Oct 9 2009, 03:38 PM
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Really Comfortable Group: Members Posts: 1,829 Joined: 11-January 07 From: Kobe, Japan Member No.: 18 |
I would attribute our VAST improvements on this front to sit ins..marches..brave women and men like JFK,MLK,and sacrifices by thousands of people white and black risking their lives and their jobs resisting intolerant and unrepentant racist people and laws not only in the south. But we regress on this thread and I can and will respect your opinion. I will respectfully agree to disagree. Yes - I support your right to disagree, and I appreciate your being a gentleman about it. But don't you think people like Martin Luther King, John F. Kennedy, and other have had a long dialog about this problem. It baffles me to see you say there's been no dialogue about it. |
Oct 9 2009, 04:02 PM
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Really Comfortable Group: Members Posts: 1,829 Joined: 11-January 07 From: Kobe, Japan Member No.: 18 |
"If our city officals (Mayor Oberlie) would have taken action when the firefighter hung that noose on city property these problems would not persist. It's hard to defend this town when people say that it is a racist place."
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Oct 9 2009, 07:19 PM
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"If our city officals (Mayor Oberlie) would have taken action when the firefighter hung that noose on city property these problems would not persist. It's hard to defend this town when people say that it is a racist place." BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! Could our city officials be part of the problem? It was not to long ago, when we learned that the Parks department saw fit to have zero African Americans employees. 30-35 years to figure out how to deal with a federal court decree involving the fire department and their hiring policy. I have a silly question for you Tim, have you ever been pulled over for speeding. If so, how many times have you had your car including your trunk searched? How many times during a traffic stop have you had to remove your shoes and socks while being patted down? Hell, have you ever been patted down for speeding? How many times have the police run checks on all your passengers because you were speeding? This happens here quite a bit..........if you happen to be Black and young. |
Oct 9 2009, 10:20 PM
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I can tell you've never lived outside of the country. While we do have a nasty history of racism, the racism that I saw in Europe was wayyyyy more deep seated and prevalent than in the states. I lived in Europe for two years and I agree. But the problem I encountered is that they are racist against Americans. Period. Doesn't matter what color our skin is, they just don't like Americans. Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind~Dr. Suess
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Oct 9 2009, 11:08 PM
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I lived in Europe for two years and I agree. But the problem I encountered is that they are racist against Americans. Period. Doesn't matter what color our skin is, they just don't like Americans. This is my point exactly. How can nationalism be racist?. What is the race of the Europeans that are perpetuating this anti American nationalism? Is it a race issue at all? Its just us in my opinion. As to the dialog that JFK and MLK had... I would love to know with whom they were talking. I would have loved to hear the great intellectual argument the other person or group was making while talking against the stances of the two of them or the thousands of like minded people of good will that stood with them. (before, during , and after being shot dead) Somehow I get the feeling that any dialog they had with Governor Wallace or The Bull in Selma would not be considered constructive. I would love to know who you feel they conducted the dialog with. BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! ...should not count as part of the definition of dialog. |
Oct 10 2009, 04:59 AM
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Really Comfortable Group: Members Posts: 1,829 Joined: 11-January 07 From: Kobe, Japan Member No.: 18 |
As to the dialog that JFK and MLK had... I would love to know with whom they were talking. BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! ...should not count as part of the definition of dialog. I said JFK an MLK were part of the dialog. Trying reading more carefully. Did I say BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! was part of the definition of dialog? It is the appropriate response to this - "If our city officals (Mayor Oberlie) would have taken action when the firefighter hung that noose on city property these problems would not persist." So, if Mayor Oberlie would have taken action against one act of racism racism in MC would not persist? Again - BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! I hope I've been clear. |
Oct 10 2009, 05:08 AM
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Really Comfortable Group: Members Posts: 1,829 Joined: 11-January 07 From: Kobe, Japan Member No.: 18 |
Could our city officials be part of the problem? It was not to long ago, when we learned that the Parks department saw fit to have zero African Americans employees. 30-35 years to figure out how to deal with a federal court decree involving the fire department and their hiring policy. I have a silly question for you Tim, have you ever been pulled over for speeding. If so, how many times have you had your car including your trunk searched? How many times during a traffic stop have you had to remove your shoes and socks while being patted down? Hell, have you ever been patted down for speeding? How many times have the police run checks on all your passengers because you were speeding? This happens here quite a bit..........if you happen to be Black and young. How many times have I been pulled over for speeding? None. My point, again, is it's silly and stupid to think that the city going after the noose incident would end racism in MC, which the poster I BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!'d at seems to be indicating as his opinion. |
Oct 10 2009, 06:39 AM
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How many times have I been pulled over for speeding? None. My point, again, is it's silly and stupid to think that the city going after the noose incident would end racism in MC, which the poster I BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!'d at seems to be indicating as his opinion. In a City that appears too have so much racism at the government level, not going after the noose incident sure does not help. Going after the problems would do more to change to direction and tone at least.To our city leadership's credit, they did recently come up with an EEOC compliance officer. I believe it was created as a distraction to the nepotisim they seem to be so good at. |
Oct 10 2009, 06:44 AM
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I said JFK an MLK were part of the dialog. Trying reading more carefully. Did I say BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! was part of the definition of dialog? It is the appropriate response to this - "If our city officals (Mayor Oberlie) would have taken action when the firefighter hung that noose on city property these problems would not persist." So, if Mayor Oberlie would have taken action against one act of racism racism in MC would not persist? Again - BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! I hope I've been clear. It takes 2 people or groups to have a dialog under any definition. Im sure their diaolog was not among themselves. With WHOM were they having this dialog??? Again if JFK and MLK were having dialog...who were they talking too??? I say they were fighting... NOT conducting dialog. They were fighting a known adversary with a widely accepted position on race. Who or what group are you saying were they in conversation with??? And once again someones opinion deserves more than a BWAAAAHA in my opinion.....but you can give my opinion a nice one also. I think its kinda dissin but maybe I'm overly sensitive. |
Oct 10 2009, 06:51 AM
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Oct 10 2009, 08:25 AM
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With all the energy that went into racism in this country, even more energy has to go into undoing the damage that was caused in this great nation. We have the capability of moving forward if all the Americans treat each other as truly fellow Americans.What's pathetic We treat people in other nations with less contempt and more respect.
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Oct 11 2009, 09:27 AM
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Spends WAY too much time at CBTL Group: Admin Posts: 16,425 Joined: 8-December 06 From: Michigan City, IN Member No.: 2 |
http://thenewsdispatch.com/main.asp?Sectio...ArticleID=26307
QUOTE Reilly's incident yields another battery report From Staff Reports MICHIGAN CITY - Another battery report has been filed involving the video of a Reilly's Sports Bar and Grill employee punching a patron, police said - this time against the patron himself. Jason Camp, 27, South Bend, let police know he wanted to file the report while being interviewed Friday about the events leading up to the "infamous" video, as it was termed in a police report. Michigan City residents Omar Lewis and Coston Anderson captured the video outside the tavern, 1103 Franklin St., in the early morning hours of Sept. 20. The 28-second clip showed bouncer Eric Polomcak, 41, allegedly punching, then kicking patron Eryc Calvin, 26, Michigan City, on the sidewalk outside the bar. Calvin filed a police report alleging he was beaten, prompting the investigation. Camp's story is similar to Polomcak's. Camp was approached by a young woman who complained that Calvin, her ex-boyfriend, was harassing her inside the bar. He approached Calvin and told him to leave, then began escorting him out of the bar with his hand in the small of Calvin's back. That's when Calvin turned and pushed him in the chest, Camp told police, knocking Camp into the bar. Both Camp and Polomcak grabbed Calvin to push him outside, according to Camp. Camp noted Calvin "took a swing" at Polomcak inside the bar, but did not actually hit him. The investigation is continuing, and no charges have been filed. |
Oct 11 2009, 09:28 AM
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Spends WAY too much time at CBTL Group: Admin Posts: 16,425 Joined: 8-December 06 From: Michigan City, IN Member No.: 2 |
http://thenewsdispatch.com/main.asp?Sectio...ArticleID=26325
QUOTE Community sounds off about Reilly's incident at NAACP meeting Laurie Wink The News-Dispatch MICHIGAN CITY - It was the regular monthly meeting of the NAACP at the Michigan City Housing Authority, but the group was particularly fired up about a new piece of business - the alleged beating of Eryc Calvin, 26, Michigan City, on the sidewalk outside of Reilly's Sports Bar and Grill, 1103 Franklin St. The incident came to the attention of local residents when a video clip of the incident appeared on Facebook. The video was taken by Omar Lewis and Coston Anderson early in the morning of Sept. 20 outside the tavern. It appeared to show bouncer Eric Polomcak, 41, punching, then kicking Calvin on the sidewalk outside the bar. Calvin filed a police report alleging he was beaten, triggering a police investigation. During a police interview about the battery on Friday, Jason Camp, 27, South Bend, said he wanted to file a battery charge against Calvin. Camp corroborates Polomcak's story that a young woman inside the bar told Camp that her ex-boyfriend, Calvin, was harassing her so Camp told Calvin to leave. Camp reportedly told police Calvin turned and pushed him into the bar. At the NAACP meeting, Calvin's aunt, Kathy Thomas, said she was upset that no one from Reilly's had called to see how Calvin was doing following the incident. "He was bruised up badly, she said. Thomas is concerned that only bouncer Polomcak has been mentioned, when the video showed three men were involved in the attack on Calvin. She said it's not a racial thing for her but a matter of justice for her nephew. "If he'd torn the bar up, they should have called police," Thomas said. "Everyday there's something new they're coming up with. Now they want to turn the tables and say it was his fault. It's just crazy." Contact Laurie Wink at lwink@thenewsdispatch.com. |
Oct 11 2009, 03:23 PM
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Really Comfortable Group: Members Posts: 1,829 Joined: 11-January 07 From: Kobe, Japan Member No.: 18 |
"At the NAACP meeting, Calvin's aunt, Kathy Thomas, said she was upset that no one from Reilly's had called to see how Calvin was doing following the incident."
Oh, right. "Hey, how's it going since I kicked the crap out of you?" *rolls eyes* This new battery charge is obviously spin control. Regardless of whether Calvin started something in the bar or not the bouncer is clearly out of bounds. Getting him out of the bar? His job. Resuming the beating after he'd already knocked him down and stood him back up? A criminal act. |
Oct 12 2009, 07:07 AM
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If the three beaters had darker skin tone than the fellow who was beaten, they would have been arrested THAT NIGHT.
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Oct 12 2009, 07:34 PM
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If the three beaters had darker skin tone than the fellow who was beaten, they would have been arrested THAT NIGHT. Thanks for chiming in with your opinion. Put simply, mean reversion is a bitch. -Vitaliy Katsenelson
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Oct 13 2009, 06:01 AM
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Oct 13 2009, 09:27 AM
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This is my point exactly. How can nationalism be racist?. What is the race of the Europeans that are perpetuating this anti American nationalism? Is it a race issue at all? Its just us in my opinion. As to the dialog that JFK and MLK had... I would love to know with whom they were talking. I would have loved to hear the great intellectual argument the other person or group was making while talking against the stances of the two of them or the thousands of like minded people of good will that stood with them. (before, during , and after being shot dead) Somehow I get the feeling that any dialog they had with Governor Wallace or The Bull in Selma would not be considered constructive. I would love to know who you feel they conducted the dialog with. BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! ...should not count as part of the definition of dialog. I'm not talking about disdain towards Americans. When I lived in Europe, I found most Europeans very fond of American's and American culture. What I'm talking about is racism. Hatred of people other than themselves. What I experienced first hand in particular was racism in France, a deep seated racism for people from North Africa. The irony being they all came from French Colonies. As far as Black and White being just a problem in America, I wonder what Nelson Mandela would have to say if he logged on to City By The Lake. |
Oct 13 2009, 02:44 PM
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I'm not talking about disdain towards Americans. When I lived in Europe, I found most Europeans very fond of American's and American culture. What I'm talking about is racism. Hatred of people other than themselves. What I experienced first hand in particular was racism in France, a deep seated racism for people from North Africa. The irony being they all came from French Colonies. As far as Black and White being just a problem in America, I wonder what Nelson Mandela would have to say if he logged on to City By The Lake. Score one for the Chicken!!! I totally forgot about them. Nearly any other situation you can mention will be more of a nationalism though. I guess all I'm saying is that "hate" is a feeling we all have at some point for various reasons... Racism is an action... something one does ....not from a sense of hate per se ,but from a sense of supremacy and power. If you look up the definition of racism it will say "supremacy". Any how.... point well taken. |
Oct 16 2009, 11:49 AM
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"If our city officals (Mayor Oberlie) would have taken action when the firefighter hung that noose on city property these problems would not persist. It's hard to defend this town when people say that it is a racist place." BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! What's an officals? |
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