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Tim
post Oct 10 2008, 03:59 AM
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AIG cancels planned events amid rebukes for hosting $440,000 function

American International Group Inc. said Thursday that it would cancel most of its planned events after lawmakers castigated the insurer for hosting a $440,000 function at a resort while benefiting from an $85-billion government bailout.

The cancellations include an event that was scheduled for next week at the Ritz-Carlton in Northern California's Half Moon Bay. The gathering that drew the rebukes was held last month at the St. Regis Resort in Dana Point. About 100 independent insurance agents who sell coverage for New York-based AIG attended, spending $23,000 on spa services, among other things.

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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-aig1...0,2353290.story

Anyone wonder why we're in the crapper? These clowns almost go under, taxpayers who are losing jobs and homes bail them out - and they're off to a laa-dee-dah spa fxxxing resort??? Obviously nearly going out of business BY THEIR OWN HAND did nothing to change their way of thinking. Jerks. A couple of nice quotes from the article -

"This kind of behavior is an insult to taxpayers," the Montana Democrat wrote in a letter to Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke. Baucus asked for a response by Oct. 23.

"I cannot fathom how in the same day -- the very same day -- that AIG asked the government for another $37.8-billion loan, the company would even consider moving forward with plans to host another large conference at another luxury resort," said Rep. Elijah E. Cummings, a Maryland Democrat.

THEN, skipping another chance to learn they're idiots, they want to ADVERTISE EXPENSIVELY about their screw up. A nice repsonse -


"To spend the taxpayer's money on an expensive ad campaign to apologize for how you used taxpayer money leaves you open to further attacks," Sard wrote in an e-mail Wednesday to Ashooh.

It just stuns me to think how stupid people who are supposed to be smart have been.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7738224.stm



US car bail-out compromise sought
IPB Image Car executives said the failure of their industry could be catastrophic US politicians are looking to find a compromise plan to aid the country's crisis-ridden car industry.

Chief executives from Ford, GM and Chrysler have asked for an urgent $25bn (£16.6bn) bail-out package as a "bridge" to help them survive.

Republican Senator Mitch McConnell said a compromise was "the only proposal" that had any chance of becoming law.

Republicans and the White House are opposed to aid for the car industry coming out of the $700bn bank bail-out.

Bankruptcy urged

Mr McConnell said: "There is a way forward that will help protect the jobs in the auto industry, while also protecting taxpayers."

Democratic Senator Carl Levin said an "effort" was being made to close the gap between supporters and opponents of a rescue plan and provide a bridging loan to Detroit.

"It would be unthinkable for Congress not to be able to reach a conclusion when the leadership of the Congress, the president and president-elect all say they support bridge loans," he said.

IPB Image IPB Image This is all about a lot more than just Detroit - it's about saving the US economy from a catastrophic collapse IPB Image
Rick Wagoner
General Motors chief executive The House financial services committee chairman, Democrat Barney Frank, asked how the government could justify a bail-out for banks and insurers, but not the car industry.

"There seems to me to be an inherent cultural bias. Aid to blue-collar employees is being judged by a standard different than white-collar employees," he said.

However, many politicians question whether public money should be used to help the carmakers.

Republican Senator Richard Shelby said the car firms should file for bankruptcy so they could carry out much-needed reforms.

"I don't think they have immediate plans to change their model, which is a model of failure. I believe their best option would be some type of Chapter 11 bankruptcy," he said.

He also called for senior management changes, saying "these leaders have been failures and they need to go".

'Catastrophic collapse'

The car industry has said that without financial help, it is teetering on the brink of disaster.

IPB Image CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY Part of the US Bankruptcy Code giving troubled firms time to reorganise themselves Under Chapter 11 protection, a bankrupt firm can carry on trading under existing management It prevents creditors from forcing a firm into liquidation in order to sell off its assets IPB Image
Layman's credit crisis glossary General Motors, Ford and Chrysler say they are burning through billions in cash monthly and have little or no ability to raise capital in the private markets due to their poor financial health and the global credit crunch.

GM has warned it could run out of cash in a matter of weeks and cannot wait until President-elect Barack Obama - who has promised to help the industry - is sworn in in January.

The carmakers' top executives and auto workers' union president Ron Gettelfinger have spent two days before Senate and House committees making a plea for help.

GM's chief executive, Rick Wagoner, warned that if the US car industry failed, it could lead to a loss of three million jobs within the first year and ripple throughout communities around the country.

"This is all about a lot more than just Detroit. It's about saving the US economy from a catastrophic collapse," he said.

Critics have argued that many of the industry's problems have been self-made, citing their past reliance upon gas-guzzling trucks and SUVs and their opposition to tougher fuel-efficiency regulations.

Chrysler's chief executive, Bob Nardelli, rejected suggestions that the carmakers should seek Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

"We just cannot be confident that we will be able to successfully emerge from bankruptcy," he said.

International problems

On Tuesday, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson also resisted diverting funds to the US car industry.

IPB Image The US car industry is in need of resuscitation Democrats have so far rejected the option favoured by the White House and Republicans, which is to let the industry use a $25bn loan programme designed to help the companies develop more fuel-efficient vehicles.

The car industry's problems are not limited to the US.

The Canadian government said on Wednesday that it would "provide further support" for its ailing car sector.

General Motors, Chrysler and Ford employ 40,000 Canadians at their factories in Ontario, and are responsible for an estimated 300,000 direct and indirect jobs in the country.

Toyota has said it will shut down all of its North American factories for two days next month.

European car companies have asked for 40bn euros (£33.5bn; $50.6bn) of soft loans for the industry.

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Tim   Now THIS pxxxes me off   Oct 10 2008, 03:59 AM
Dave   Hey, it's even worse than you think... ...   Oct 10 2008, 01:07 PM
southsider2k7   Hey, it's even worse than you think... ...   Oct 10 2008, 01:12 PM
Roger Kaputnik   http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7737040.stm ...   Nov 19 2008, 07:51 PM
Roger Kaputnik   http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7738224.stm ...   Nov 19 2008, 07:58 PM
Roger Kaputnik   http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7651257.stm ...   Nov 19 2008, 08:07 PM
eric.hanke   Before handing these companies BILLIONS of dollars...   Nov 19 2008, 08:44 PM
southsider2k7   The most telling thing that no one is really talki...   Nov 20 2008, 07:37 AM
Roger Kaputnik   eric.hanke, the second IBP image did not come up...   Nov 20 2008, 09:08 AM
southsider2k7   eric.hanke, the second IBP image did not come up...   Nov 20 2008, 09:33 AM
Roger Kaputnik   If you have a cost structure that puts you ...   Nov 20 2008, 11:42 AM
southsider2k7   High wages is not a labor problem, it is a failur...   Nov 20 2008, 11:48 AM
Roger Kaputnik   Its a labor problem when the company is doomed ...   Nov 20 2008, 12:46 PM
southsider2k7   It is a problem FOR labor when the mgmt. has mess...   Nov 20 2008, 01:03 PM
eric.hanke   eric.hanke, the second IBP image did not come up...   Nov 20 2008, 09:51 AM
southsider2k7   And back to the original post... I came across thi...   Nov 20 2008, 11:36 AM
Dave   And back to the original post... I came across th...   Nov 20 2008, 02:43 PM
Roger Kaputnik   It is not the hardhat crowd that is making any of ...   Nov 20 2008, 01:34 PM
southsider2k7   It is not the hardhat crowd that is making any of...   Nov 20 2008, 01:49 PM
Roger Kaputnik   When the choice is reduction or failure, I expe...   Nov 20 2008, 02:53 PM
edgeywood   ... The fault cannot be laid at the feet of the w...   Nov 20 2008, 07:22 PM
southyards   Well said. Has anyone seen "Who Stole the ...   Nov 21 2008, 06:37 PM
Tim   How about the clowns in Detroit EACH flying to Was...   Nov 20 2008, 08:13 PM
TSNSPYDER   A couple thoughts I have. All CEOs make way too ...   Nov 22 2008, 11:07 AM
southsider2k7   A couple thoughts I have. All CEOs make way too...   Nov 24 2008, 07:56 AM
southsider2k7   http://thenewsdispatch.com/main.asp?Sectio...amp;T...   Nov 24 2008, 08:41 AM
digger262   I work in the automotive industry and most of us h...   Nov 25 2008, 10:55 AM
Roger Kaputnik   MITCH ALBOM If I had the floor at the auto rescu...   Nov 25 2008, 11:02 AM
Roger Kaputnik   Look. Nobody is saying the auto business is hea...   Nov 25 2008, 11:34 AM
southsider2k7   The entire article could have been these sentence...   Nov 25 2008, 11:43 AM
digger262   If American's really felt that way, they woul...   Nov 25 2008, 12:16 PM
Roger Kaputnik   It is a lot like the way greens pay more for organ...   Nov 25 2008, 12:01 PM
southsider2k7   It is a lot like the way greens pay more for orga...   Nov 25 2008, 01:12 PM
Roger Kaputnik   The Lear jets are nothing compared to the wage...   Nov 25 2008, 01:35 PM
southsider2k7   Wages and benefits are spread around to a lot of...   Nov 25 2008, 01:47 PM
Roger Kaputnik   Regarding your statement that Americans have becom...   Nov 25 2008, 12:57 PM
Roger Kaputnik   Salaries and bonuses are not the same as wages and...   Nov 25 2008, 02:02 PM
southsider2k7   Salaries and bonuses are not the same as wages an...   Nov 25 2008, 02:15 PM
Roger Kaputnik   I think we all have said the same thing. Speaking...   Nov 25 2008, 02:32 PM
southsider2k7   I think we all have said the same thing. Speakin...   Nov 25 2008, 03:02 PM
Roger Kaputnik   The only way it has been ignored is by allocating ...   Nov 25 2008, 03:58 PM
southsider2k7   The only way it has been ignored is by allocating...   Nov 25 2008, 07:24 PM
Roger Kaputnik   My point is that the money made then was not put t...   Nov 26 2008, 09:17 AM


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