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post Jul 30 2010, 08:26 AM
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Published: Thursday, July 29, 2010 8:35 PM CDT
Out of respect to our print edition subscribers and their committment to using The News-Dispatch as their local news source, The News -Dispatch website will now be updated at 5 p.m. daily. While we value our online readers, it's only fair that our loyal, paying customers of The News-Dispatch print edition have top priority when it comes to reading the news. For subscription information, call 219-874-7211.


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post Jul 30 2010, 10:14 PM
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I posted this at the site -

So does this mean the webite won't sit for three days w/out being updated like it does now. What does that say about your business model when a cut in service actually yeilds an improvement?

I doubt they'll post it. I've done this before - it never appears.

Just looked at the site. All the headlines are from June 24th. That new policy is really working out!

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post Jul 31 2010, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE(Tim @ Jul 30 2010, 11:14 PM) *

I posted this at the site -

So does this mean the webite won't sit for three days w/out being updated like it does now. What does that say about your business model when a cut in service actually yeilds an improvement?

I doubt they'll post it. I've done this before - it never appears.

Just looked at the site. All the headlines are from June 24th. That new policy is really working out!

Morons.


We're getting a lot of comments about the website not being updated the past few days, but that seems to have been fixed. We knew about it all day and were trying to get someone to fix it, as we weren't able to ourselves. I still don't know what happened.


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post Jul 31 2010, 02:33 AM
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QUOTE(NDReporter @ Jul 31 2010, 02:48 AM) *

We're getting a lot of comments about the website not being updated the past few days, but that seems to have been fixed. We knew about it all day and were trying to get someone to fix it, as we weren't able to ourselves. I still don't know what happened.



The ND has an online edition and the ND doesn't know how to fix it?

Really?
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QUOTE(Tim @ Jul 31 2010, 03:33 AM) *

The ND has an online edition and the ND doesn't know how to fix it?

Really?


I'm a reporter, not a web technician. We did all we knew to do, and it still wasn't fixed. Give me a break.


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QUOTE(NDReporter @ Jul 31 2010, 11:52 AM) *

I'm a reporter, not a web technician. We did all we knew to do, and it still wasn't fixed. Give me a break.


I'm sure I didn't say you personally. Nor did I say YOU should fix it. Didn't you write "Discuss" at the beginning of this? And now when someone offers an opinion you either don't like or don't agree with you want them to give you a break.

Please.
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QUOTE(Tim @ Jul 31 2010, 04:32 PM) *

I'm sure I didn't say you personally. Nor did I say YOU should fix it. Didn't you write "Discuss" at the beginning of this? And now when someone offers an opinion you either don't like or don't agree with you want them to give you a break.

Please.


I'm just sick of people railing on those of us in the trenches here when the real problem is elsewhere...


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QUOTE(NDReporter @ Jul 31 2010, 04:52 PM) *

I'm just sick of people railing on those of us in the trenches here when the real problem is elsewhere...


NO ONE IS RAILING ON YOU PERSONALLY. WE ALL KNOW WHERE THE PROBLEM LIES.

Dangling Christ, I clearly said "The ND has an online edition...." Are you the ND?

I've said this before, but despite your childish outbursts - like this one - I'm sure you're one of the people fighting the good fight at the ND.

Lighten the fun up.
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QUOTE(Tim @ Jul 31 2010, 04:56 PM) *

NO ONE IS RAILING ON YOU PERSONALLY. WE ALL KNOW WHERE THE PROBLEM LIES.

Dangling Christ, I clearly said "The ND has an online edition...." Are you the ND?

I've said this before, but despite your childish outbursts - like this one - I'm sure you're one of the people fighting the good fight at the ND.

Lighten the fun up.


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QUOTE(NDReporter @ Jul 31 2010, 05:08 PM) *

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Which part of that didn't you get? I just read through the thread - not ONE PERSON is "railing" on those of you in the trenches.

You started this discussion. A lot of people here ARE on the side of those of you working hard to plug the hole in the Titanic.
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QUOTE(Tim @ Jul 31 2010, 06:03 PM) *

Which part of that didn't you get? I just read through the thread - not ONE PERSON is "railing" on those of you in the trenches.

You started this discussion. A lot of people here ARE on the side of those of you working hard to plug the hole in the Titanic.



Now that there is no local publisher, at least at this moment, where does the problem lie?
Corporate? There were some very good reporters at the paper in the past but many seem to have bailed out or been pushed out. That is a loss for the community.

In every market where we operate there have been cuts, but the most severe have been in Michigan City. In one market the publisher has just started charging for content and readers have responded with anger. It looks like there is no easy answer.

As I indicated some time ago we had an on-line newspaper project underway when the economy softened and we decided to postpone further development. (I know a broadcaster who has launched on-line newspapers successfully). In a normal economy we believe we could support it with advertising. The problem is that bloggers will cut and paste articles from the internet as they now do and that would reduce the value to us and to our clients. I suspect there may be means to protect from reposting, but I am not
certain as we did not look into that aspect.
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QUOTE(Tom Burns @ Jul 31 2010, 07:39 PM) *

Now that there is no local publisher, at least at this moment, where does the problem lie?
Corporate? There were some very good reporters at the paper in the past but many seem to have bailed out or been pushed out. That is a loss for the community.

In every market where we operate there have been cuts, but the most severe have been in Michigan City. In one market the publisher has just started charging for content and readers have responded with anger. It looks like there is no easy answer.

As I indicated some time ago we had an on-line newspaper project underway when the economy softened and we decided to postpone further development. (I know a broadcaster who has launched on-line newspapers successfully). In a normal economy we believe we could support it with advertising. The problem is that bloggers will cut and paste articles from the internet as they now do and that would reduce the value to us and to our clients. I suspect there may be means to protect from reposting, but I am not
certain as we did not look into that aspect.


Yeah, free advertising sucks, doesn't it?
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QUOTE(southsiderMMX @ Jul 31 2010, 09:58 PM) *

Yeah, free advertising sucks, doesn't it?


But how does the newspaper sell advertising? Ever wonder why they practically give away the Chicago Tribune and Post Tribune home subscriptions? Their ad rates are based on circulation. So they reap very little benefit from news aggregators and bloggers. Aggregators may drive some traffic to a paper's web site, but web ad revenues are minuscule compared to the print edition.

Real news organizations are expensive. I believe they are essential for a democracy. How should we fund them? People are willing to fork over $$$ for cable television AND they are subjected to commercials. Is news as important as ESPN, HGTV, HBO?
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NDReporter   Change to News-Dispatch web publication   Jul 30 2010, 08:26 AM
Ang   I understand the "why" part of the chang...   Jul 30 2010, 08:41 AM
NDReporter   I understand the "why" part of the chan...   Jul 30 2010, 08:53 AM
Ang   Well, the papers are delivered in the morning. Pe...   Jul 30 2010, 09:17 AM
southsiderMMX   This is the same thinking that made Bill Wirtz bla...   Jul 30 2010, 09:27 AM
NDReporter   This is the same thinking that made Bill Wirtz bl...   Jul 30 2010, 09:56 AM
southsiderMMX   As far as quantity and quality in the N-D and H-A...   Jul 30 2010, 10:12 AM
Dave   my comment from the parallel "Yesterday's...   Jul 30 2010, 11:57 AM
southsiderMMX   my comment from the parallel "Yesterday...   Jul 30 2010, 01:12 PM
Tom Burns   2. So their advertisers are worthless on line wh...   Jul 30 2010, 02:48 PM
edgeywood   Like I said before, the whole rest of the news wo...   Jul 31 2010, 07:36 AM
NDReporter   The "online community" doesn't have...   Jul 31 2010, 10:53 AM
taxthedeer   It's after 5PM?...Why hasn't it updated?   Jul 30 2010, 04:17 PM
Ang   Because 5:00 is quittin' time!   Jul 30 2010, 09:16 PM
Tim   While I've been vocal in my illumination of th...   Jul 30 2010, 09:52 PM
Tim   I posted this at the site - So does this mean th...   Jul 30 2010, 10:14 PM
NDReporter   I posted this at the site - So does this mean t...   Jul 31 2010, 01:48 AM
Tim   We're getting a lot of comments about the web...   Jul 31 2010, 02:33 AM
NDReporter   The ND has an online edition and the ND doesn...   Jul 31 2010, 10:52 AM
Tim   I'm a reporter, not a web technician. We did ...   Jul 31 2010, 03:32 PM
NDReporter   I'm sure I didn't say you personally. No...   Jul 31 2010, 03:52 PM
Tim   I'm just sick of people railing on those of u...   Jul 31 2010, 03:56 PM
NDReporter   NO ONE IS RAILING ON YOU PERSONALLY. WE ALL KNOW...   Jul 31 2010, 04:08 PM
Tim   :blink: Which part of that didn't you get? ...   Jul 31 2010, 05:03 PM
Tom Burns   Which part of that didn't you get? I just re...   Jul 31 2010, 06:39 PM
Tim   Now that there is no local publisher, at least a...   Jul 31 2010, 08:16 PM
southsiderMMX   Now that there is no local publisher, at least a...   Jul 31 2010, 08:58 PM
edgeywood   Yeah, free advertising sucks, doesn't it? B...   Jul 31 2010, 09:32 PM
MC Born & Raised   The reality is, for most newspapers the Web isn...   Jul 31 2010, 02:35 PM
TSNSPYDER   He needs to say it this way (in a Scotty voice)......   Jul 31 2010, 04:15 PM
Tim   Just looked at the website - I notice they didn...   Jul 31 2010, 04:27 PM
southsiderMMX   Every single person in this town knows that the Ne...   Jul 31 2010, 09:54 PM
southsiderMMX   Let me just say this much... This will do nothing...   Jul 31 2010, 10:17 PM
Tim   ^^^ Excellent post, SS. This statement is pretty...   Jul 31 2010, 11:55 PM
Tom Burns   "Yeah, free advertising sucks, doesn't it...   Aug 1 2010, 07:36 AM
southsiderMMX   I would like to clarify something else here I just...   Aug 1 2010, 08:51 AM
Tom Burns   Audit Bureau of Circulation figures show the News ...   Aug 1 2010, 03:45 PM
Tom Burns   Gathering local news is not without considerable h...   Aug 1 2010, 06:21 PM
southsiderMMX   Audit Bureau of Circulation figures show the News...   Aug 1 2010, 06:40 PM
Tom Burns   Which goes to my point that people should be work...   Aug 2 2010, 02:15 AM
Ang   There is a way to prevent people from copying and ...   Aug 2 2010, 08:27 AM
mcstumper   There is a way to prevent people from copying and...   Aug 2 2010, 04:02 PM
Agent99   There is a way to prevent people from copying and...   Aug 2 2010, 04:14 PM
southsiderMMX   There's actually a fairly simple java script ...   Aug 2 2010, 04:25 PM
5thGen   I don't post much, however I lurk quite a bit....   Aug 3 2010, 05:43 AM
Tom Burns   While we can and do broadcast news as it develops...   Aug 3 2010, 08:26 AM
NDReporter   I don't post much, however I lurk quite a bit...   Aug 3 2010, 10:52 AM
lighter   While South Bend Trib, nwi.com and now post-trib g...   Aug 3 2010, 12:56 PM
Ang   I support you Alicia! And Adam, too! Per...   Aug 3 2010, 01:10 PM
MC Born & Raised   I always find the cost complaint to be interesting...   Aug 3 2010, 02:06 PM
Ang   No offense taken. My problem is not really the fa...   Aug 3 2010, 02:49 PM
taxthedeer   I always felt that Michigan City should consider i...   Aug 3 2010, 03:37 PM
lighter   A little research led to this, the herald-argus.co...   Aug 4 2010, 09:16 AM
southsiderMMX   A little research led to this, the herald-argus.c...   Aug 6 2010, 11:28 AM
Tom Burns   "A little research led to this, the herald-ar...   Aug 5 2010, 08:40 AM
taxthedeer   Current daily circulation of HA is 7954, ND is ...   Aug 7 2010, 12:10 PM
southsiderMMX   I predict that the demise of the Michigan City Ne...   Aug 7 2010, 04:49 PM
Tom Burns   With the technology of a few years ago that woul...   Aug 8 2010, 05:59 PM
Tim   I have to say that the online edition of the ND is...   Aug 5 2010, 11:02 PM
lighter   Seems the editors at N-dispatch r eatin a little c...   Aug 27 2010, 12:14 PM


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