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post Apr 10 2008, 12:12 PM
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"A facility not being used by MCAS is considered to be available for park use," according to the memorandum of understanding.

Harding said he wants to know who authored the memorandum.


I believe the memorandum was issued by Linda Anast in 2002. I remember we had this same issue come up when I was at PP then. Only the "bad guy" was the then Director of Plant Planning, Cary Laramore. Parks won the dispute and that's why the memorandum was drafted and approved by Dr. Anast. IIRC


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post Apr 11 2008, 05:27 AM
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This makes the idea of the Park Dept taking over the YMCA for an office/rec center sound even better. We have organized a movment on doing just that. If you would like to help contact RedDevil or myself for details.
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post Apr 11 2008, 07:03 AM
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Big picture, that is a really good idea in concept. Part of the problem that the NFPs in MC are having is that there are just too many of them. Like any business sector, sometimes there is a need for consolidation to service the customers better. Uniting NFPs in MC would be a good move, and eliminate duplicity in some areas.
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post Apr 11 2008, 09:55 PM
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Big picture, that is a really good idea in concept. Part of the problem that the NFPs in MC are having is that there are just too many of them. Like any business sector, sometimes there is a need for consolidation to service the customers better. Uniting NFPs in MC would be a good move, and eliminate duplicity in some areas.

We do not expect them to resurect the YMCA. We want them to abandon the plan to build a new office on the beach. The price tag they have for this new office $5.6 million. We want them to buy, rehab and move their office to the empty YMCA building. This way the community ends up with a recreation center and save the city about $3 million!
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post Apr 11 2008, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(lovethiscity @ Apr 11 2008, 10:55 PM) *

We do not expect them to resurect the YMCA. We want them to abandon the plan to build a new office on the beach. The price tag they have for this new office $5.6 million. We want them to buy, rehab and move their office to the empty YMCA building. This way the community ends up with a recreation center and save the city about $3 million!


Of course, if one takes into consideration political considerations -- all those yummy construction contracts for the cronies, the chance (which would have to approach 1) of cost overruns for said cronies, and the opportunity for the Charles Oberlie (or would it be the Al Walus?) Building, the likelyhood of recycling the YMCA is probably pretty low.

But maybe I'm too cynical. I suppose there is a chance this could happen. I certainly wouldn't bet against RedDevil getting it done!
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post Apr 15 2008, 12:09 PM
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http://thenewsdispatch.com/main.asp?Sectio...&TM=51400.8

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4/15/2008 10:25:00 AM
Gym Use Resolution Up For Debate

Jason Miller
The News-Dispatch

MICHIGAN CITY - The City Council will introduce a resolution tonight that one member calls a "kick in the pants" to both the city school system and parks department.

The resolution will ask the Michigan City Area Schools to comply with a decades-old contract that allows park groups to use school gymnasiums. The two agencies have been haggling over gym use for more than a month since the MCAS refused to allow an AAU basketball group to use school facilities.

"I think it's just a statement by the council saying quit acting like school kids and do what's best for the community," at-large Councilman Joe Doyle said. "They have to understand, if they want community support, they've got to give the community support."

The School Board last week shot down an agreement between the two agencies drawn up by Mayor Chuck Oberlie after a closed-door meeting with School Board President Clyde Zeek and Park Board President Phil Latchford.

School Board members said they wanted to do more research on the agreement and tweak it a bit.

Doyle said Monday the contract, which has been in effect for some 20 years, stands on its own and should be adhered to.

The council also plans to vote on a resolution supporting an effort by city officials to look into possible sites for a new police station.



Contact Jason Miller at jmiller@thenewsdispatch.com.
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post Apr 16 2008, 01:23 PM
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Interesting to see the park board, err, City Council chosing to get involved in this matter...
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post Apr 16 2008, 04:41 PM
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At least the City Council understands that they speak for the people, not themselves. I think they are speaking for the people on this issue and if they can get it resolved, then they are doing exactly what their constituents voted for them for. (??)


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post May 7 2008, 08:31 AM
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http://thenewsdispatch.com/main.asp?Sectio...amp;TM=38203.29

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5/7/2008 10:16:00 AM
Parks, MCAS Stalled, But Still Talking

Deborah Sederberg
The News-Dispatch

MICHIGAN CITY - Nothing was settled at a Tuesday meeting between representatives of the Michigan City Park Department and Michi-gan City Area Schools, but at least they are still talking.

At stake is the use of MCAS facilities by park department programs as well as community programs which may or may not be park department programs. That definition depends on who's making that judgment.

Representing the Mich-igan City Area Schools were board president Clyde Zeek, board member Jim Kintzele and Superintendent Michael Harding.

For the park department, board president Phil Latchford, board member Bryant Dabney and Superintendent Dar-rell Garbacik were present.

On March 27, Mayor Chuck Oberlie held a mediation session be-tween the two sides and each took a memorandum of understanding to its respective board.

At its April 8 meeting, the school board decided the document needed more work.

On Tuesday, Latchford asked why community groups have been treated differently in the last year than they had been treated in the last 20 years.

In 1988, the two sides signed an agreement in which the park department could use school facilities in exchange for some Zilla Park land that made it possible to build an addition onto Marsh School.

The agreement allowed MCAS to be first in line for use of its facilities for athletic or other school-sponsored events, Harding said.

The park department, according to the 1988 agreement, has "the first right of opportunity to use the facilities deemed appropriate" for no fee, he added.

Third in line are community groups associated with neither the schools nor the park department. To have the fees waived, those groups must appeal to the school board.

MCAS athletic director Bob "Bear" Falls pointed to some inconsistencies.

"How can I turn down the Soul Steppers and how can I justify (turning down) Jim Larson and his AAU basketball team but the (girls) basketball academy gets in?"

The park board says the girls team fits under the park department's um-brella.

But what about the boys or the Soul Steppers? Garbacik said those groups need to ask the Park Board to be included as part of its programs.

Roger Butler, one of the coaches of the girls team, told The News-Dispatch on Tuesday, "Everybody makes this mistake. We really are not an AAU team, but we play in some AAU tournaments."

Butler said the basketball academy doesn't make cuts.

Because the girls play in some AAU tournaments, he said, the organization buys health insurance for the players through AAU and the park department provides liability insurance. Insurance was a matter of discussion at Tuesday's meeting, with Harding worried about exposing the school corporation to liability through the community groups.

For the school corporation's part, Harding said, "We have to serve all kids," without regard for their ability to pay.

Butler said he and another coach, Paul Friedrich, who also has been a volunteer coach for MCAS, sponsored some of the 60 players.

"Twenty-five percent of our girls didn't pay anything at all," he said.

Harding said it would be easier for MCAS if the high school coach were to be in charge of the community team.

As for money, he said the funds of a team under the control of MCAS would have to go through the Department of Local Government Finance.

Kintzele said MCAS respects the Zilla Park agreement, but the two entities still need to discuss specifically the use of the Wolves Den and the "umbrella effect of the park board." Kintzele wants to know exactly how and when a group comes under the sponsorship of the park department.

"Are we obligated to accept every group you accept?" Zeek asked.

Dave Williamson, director of plant planning for MCAS, pointed out that it costs the school corporation money to take on new groups, including the cost of electricity.

"We gave up some real estate in 1988," Latchford said. "You forfeited some rights."

The groups will meet again at 4:30 p.m. Thursday, May 15, at the MCAS administration center.



Contact Deborah Sederberg at dsederberg@

thenewsdispatch.com.
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post May 7 2008, 09:12 AM
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This situation is just rediculous! It's getting way out of hand.


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post May 8 2008, 11:51 AM
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This is another example of the local boards and councils treating MC like they own the joint. The people are shut out and these two bodies bicker.


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post May 14 2008, 09:20 AM
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From the end of the Scheimann article.

http://thenewsdispatch.com/main.asp?Sectio...amp;TM=41051.82

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5/14/2008 11:08:00 AM
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The board action to fire Scheimann was included in a series of personnel recommendations put forth by MCAS Superintendent Michael Harding. Board member Beryle Burgwald requested separate action be taken on the resignation of Gary Collins from his position as head coach of the Michigan City High School girls' basketball team.

There was speculation Collins was forced out as coach because he contacted the board in regard to its decision to prevent access to the high school gymnasium by a local youth basketball program.

Burgwald wanted the public to know where each board member stood on the controversial resignation by asking for a separate vote.

"Tonight we take formal action and I thought it ought to be separate," Burgwald said. "If we're going to get blame or praise, we ought to be on record for it."

The board voted 4-2 in favor of accepting the resignation, with Kathryn Lee, Clyde Zeek, Jeff Jones and Nate Gipson approving. Burgwald and James Kintzele voted against it. Board member Rick Carlson was absent.

Burgwald and Kintzele said they did not have enough information to decide on the matter. Kintzele said the board should be given enough information to understand the reasons for decisions and suggested the board conduct exit interviews with "anyone who resigns."

Kintzele said, "I would like the public to know that all (personnel) decisions come from administration and not from the board. We either accept or reject."

Jones felt it was important to clarify that Collins was only resigning from his coaching position and not his position as an elementary school physical education teacher. Jones said, "There is no question about his efficacy as a teacher."

Jones said the board's only job is to hire, supervise and, when necessary, fire the superintendent, who handles all other personnel decisions.

"We don't have seven HR directors up here," Jones said. "We have to trust the administration."

Board President Clyde Zeek said state law prohibits the board from discussing personnel matters in a public board meeting. Zeek said that, since Collins submitted a resignation, he accepted it "at face value."



Contact Laurie Wink at lwink@thenewsdispatch.com.


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post May 14 2008, 11:04 AM
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Schools Reaffirmed Park Agreement In '03
It seems clear from the letters in this space that a significant number of readers are interested in what is happening in the current discussions between the Michigan City Parks Department and Michigan City Area Schools regarding the use of MCAS facilities by Parks Department programs.

I am sure they appreciate your reporting of the events surrounding these discussions ("Parks, MCAS stalled, but still talking," Wednesday). Although generally informative, your reporting has omitted an important fact regarding the relationship between the two boards, one which was described in Park Board minutes of April 3.

Sometime prior to year-end 2003, MCAS decided there was a need to expand Marsh School by roughly 40 feet to the south. Before MCAS could do such a thing, however, MCAS needed to seek the approve of the Park Board, and did so in December 2003. As part of the approval process, it was necessary for MCAS to reconsider and, if it so determined, to reaffirm all terms and provisions of the 1988 Parks Department/MCAS facilities use agreement.

This was done in a resolution prepared by the MCAS attorney and adopted by the Board of School Trustees on Dec. 18, 2003, after the Park Board generously gave its consent to the expansion project. The construction project was funded by school board bonds issued in 2006, and the expansion was completed only recently.

The documentation may be found in the records of both boards and of the Michigan City Board of Works and Safety. I hope your editorial board can agree that the Parks Department, its board and the community at large can be forgiven if they were surprised, and perhaps disappointed in the attitude and actions of MCAS in the fall of 2007, given the reaffirmation of the agreement in December 2003.

Patrick E. Donoghue

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Patrick E. Donoghue is attorney for the Park Board.
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Jones felt it was important to clarify that Collins was only resigning from his coaching position and not his position as an elementary school physical education teacher. Jones said, "There is no question about his efficacy as a teacher."


I just wanted to say that there isn't much of a question as to his efficacy as a basketball coach either -- I would think that 14 - 0 conference record would pretty determinative.
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Jones felt it was important to clarify that Collins was only resigning from his coaching position and not his position as an elementary school physical education teacher. Jones said, "There is no question about his efficacy as a teacher."


Dave is right--you can't question his efficacy in either position. But, he is looking elsewhere. For Jones, and the other school board members who accepted his resignation, to not see this is incomprehensible. (I'm still shaking my head at this whole ordeal).
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post May 14 2008, 01:45 PM
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Ron Meer said the board is basically ducking its duty (I am paraphrasing), and this same thing with the Board hiding behind procedural rules happened when the issue of the Supt. was reviewed. Dump them, I say.


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post May 22 2008, 11:38 AM
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This is a big shot across the bow...

http://thenewsdispatch.com/main.asp?Sectio...amp;TM=48947.68

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Minority Youth Denied Access
In a recent News-Dispatch story regarding the negotiations between Michigan City Area Schools and Michigan City Parks and Recreation Department officials dealing with the use of MCAS facilities, a statement was made by Athletic Director Robert Falls about the Soul Steppers Program and a boys AAU basketball program being run by Mr. Larson.

His quote was "how could he allow the Michigan City Basketball Academy girls program use of facilities after denying these programs access to facilities." Why would you deny these programs access to begin with? It would be hard to find anyone who has witnessed the Soul Steppers' performances in person to not understand what a great program this is and the benefits these youth gain by being active in the program, and not being out on the streets. And I personally know Mr. Larson and his boys basketball program fit the same mold, by allowing youth to be a part of something positive.

These programs contain one common denominator - minority youth, and it is very offending to me that Mr. Falls and MCAS seem to continually harass and target these kids. What can our community offer these kids to keep them involved in anything other than the street culture.

Instead of harassing them you should be embracing them. The youth in my mind are our greatest asset. Treat them with dignity and respect and learn to see the pearl that lies inside as I have.

But do as you do now, continually harass them and seek to limit their opportunities, and you will reap the benefits of higher crime rates, student drop out rates and all the other misgivings that come with not embracing our youth.

Roger A. Butler

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Oh, please! Instead of making such accusations, Mr. Butler needs to produce facts to substantiate this Molotov cocktail.


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http://thenewsdispatch.com/main.asp?Sectio...amp;TM=47119.85

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Girls Team Did Well Despite Odds
I thank all the young ladies and their parents and or guardians for taking part in the spring and summer basketball leagues held at the Courts of NWI in Valpo this year.

These young ladies represented both Michigan City and Michigan City Basketball Academy with the utmost sportsmanship and respect, and should be commended for that.

This group of young ladies was denied access to a gym by Michigan City Area Schools to practice, while facing teams that were practicing together as many as three times a week, yet still found a way to stay positive and have fun as a group.

They as a team of both seventh and eighth grade girls managed to compile a record of 23-2 over both leagues, going undefeated in the spring (16-0) and winning the spring session hands down, then they went on to rattle off six more wins and finish as runners-up in the summer league.

As a coach I would love to take credit for this accomplishment, but I simply cannot as this was the desire and hard work from these young ladies, and not letting the negative atmosphere in their school system define them as a team.

So to Allison M., Aubria C., Aubria S., Ashely E., Felisha S., Gabi S., Jessica K., Kelsey P., Keyshana C., Tonea H., and Toni M., I say "job well done."

I also thank Paul Freidrich and Dave Pawloske for their assistance as well. You all worked together as a team, never worried about egos, and showed our community what you can accomplish when you work together.

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This is what you could call a scathing indictment. We need a new Board.


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