Gentlemen's Strip Club wants to locate on U.S. 421 south of I-94, Close proximity to Coolspring Elementary |
Gentlemen's Strip Club wants to locate on U.S. 421 south of I-94, Close proximity to Coolspring Elementary |
Nov 10 2011, 12:13 PM
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Appearently a Gentlemen's Strip Club is attempting to locate at U.S. 421 south of I-94 just down the road from Coolspring Elementary school. The Michigan City Area Schools have adoped a resolution to the La Porte County Zoning Board of Appeals to stop it from going in.
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Nov 10 2011, 12:21 PM
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Spends WAY too much time at CBTL Group: Admin Posts: 16,425 Joined: 8-December 06 From: Michigan City, IN Member No.: 2 |
Wow. How come we haven't heard about this one before? I'll have to look at the zoning to see if it is even possible.
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Nov 10 2011, 12:25 PM
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It was just reported on WEFM. Mr. Bill Greene is the school board member who wrote and read the resolution.
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Nov 10 2011, 12:30 PM
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Again, wow. How did this not get out before the school board meeting?
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Nov 10 2011, 01:00 PM
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It looks like the LP Co BZA's next meeting is November 15th. I wonder if it is on the agenda for then? Of course the agenda isn't up on their website.
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Nov 10 2011, 07:16 PM
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http://thenewsdispatch.com/articles/2011/1...38780119609.txt
QUOTE MCAS opposes proposed gentleman’s club By Amanda Jacobson Staff Writer Published: Thursday, November 10, 2011 5:08 PM CST MICHIGAN CITY — The Michigan City Area Schools board unanimously supported a motion Wednesday night to oppose a zoning variance that might allow a gentleman’s club to be built not far from Coolspring Elementary School. Assistant Superintendent Xavier Botana said school buses and families pass by U.S. 421 and Interstate 94 – the proposed site of the new business – to and from school, and it would be unfit for children to see the establishment, should it be built there. The board’s opposition will be sent to the La Porte County Board of Zoning Appeals, which will consider the matter Tuesday. The exact address for the proposed club is 3205 N. U.S. 421. Also at the meeting: * • Jan Radford, MCAS director of curriculum, presented initial plans for the restructuring of the Michigan City High School course book. Radford said the goals of the new book include the need to expand safety nets for students, improve upon existing career tech courses and realign district arts programs. Radford proposed the high school curricula include a new required freshman course titled “Orientation to Life and Careers,” which will prepare students for college course planning, improve study skills, align high school course selection so students graduate on time and create personal learning plans for each student. Superintendent Barbara Eason-Watkins said she feels the new course is a step in the right direction, from what she learned while having lunch with high school students last year. • Thirty-six MCAS K-8 teachers will receive grants this year from the Michigan City Education Foundation. The grants were sponsored by the Unity Foundation and established by Mary Lou Linnen of Michigan City. The MCAS school board also announced its support of the Unity Foundation’s new vision statement. • Board members unanimously approved a new tax anticipation warrant resolution, with which the school system could refinance its debts and save an estimated $207,000 in total expenses after one year. |
Nov 11 2011, 12:23 AM
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Does anybody know who actually owns the property at 3205 N. U.S. 421? Who is trying to purchase it?
It's either being offered by or recently sold through Coldwell Banker sales associate Jay Gottleber who lives in Valparaiso. It's a 414' X 500' 4.6 acre rectangular tract of land just north of the Harbor Superstore car dealership/Frontier Lawn & Rec John Deere dealership on Frontage Rd. 1000' off 300 N. Asking price is $495,000. I'm guessing the people trying to establish this business are from Chicago. .http://www.coldwellbankeronline.com/proper...mp;IsSold=False http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xf76q0_ho...ghway-42_travel |
Nov 11 2011, 12:52 PM
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OK, I guess I will get some bashing for this one, but why is this such a big deal? I get that it is "in route" to a school, but trust me when I say school kids walk around, by and through much worse then a sign on a pole (no pun intended) promoting a legal club on the way to school each day. Business is Business is Business. If someone is willing to invest in our town, why are we complaining?
Just my thoughts, Bellah |
Nov 11 2011, 02:59 PM
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OK, I guess I will get some bashing for this one, but why is this such a big deal? I get that it is "in route" to a school, but trust me when I say school kids walk around, by and through much worse then a sign on a pole (no pun intended) promoting a legal club on the way to school each day. Business is Business is Business. If someone is willing to invest in our town, why are we complaining? Just my thoughts, Bellah First of it isn't actually "in town" from a technical sense. It is just outside of the City limits. Most importantly, think of the towns in the area that have these type of establishments. When I think of them, my first reaction is I want no more in common with those towns than we already have. It is not the type of image we want to project, and the type of image that City needs to portray. We can do better. |
Nov 11 2011, 03:04 PM
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I believe that area is not serviced by sewers. I wonder if a septic system can handle the amount of people who would go to that business.
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Nov 11 2011, 04:35 PM
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First of it isn't actually "in town" from a technical sense. It is just outside of the City limits. Most importantly, think of the towns in the area that have these type of establishments. When I think of them, my first reaction is I want no more in common with those towns than we already have. It is not the type of image we want to project, and the type of image that City needs to portray. We can do better. Better, as in a new truck stop along the East entrance to town? (sorry about that) : - ) |
Nov 11 2011, 04:36 PM
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First of it isn't actually "in town" from a technical sense. It is just outside of the City limits. Most importantly, think of the towns in the area that have these type of establishments. When I think of them, my first reaction is I want no more in common with those towns than we already have. It is not the type of image we want to project, and the type of image that City needs to portray. We can do better. So, a mile or so out side of "town limits"? Any business that close would still have an financial benefit on the surrounding area (hotels, restaurants, gas stations, ect). What image exactly does the City need to project? Who gets to decide? Do you believe that City has some untainted image and hasn't already been compared to those other towns (even though they have the "these establishments" and we don't)? Of course, a more "family" oriented business could be preferred, but again, business is business and a tax asset and income generating for our area. I guess I don't see why it is fair to deny a legal business because we just don't like the "image" it will portray. Sex sells. Is it good, moral, or "right"? Probably not, depending on the circumstances. but if it pays for all those parks, police, fireman, schools, and resources a community uses then so be it. |
Nov 11 2011, 06:13 PM
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Nov 11 2011, 06:15 PM
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So, a mile or so out side of "town limits"? Any business that close would still have an financial benefit on the surrounding area (hotels, restaurants, gas stations, ect). What image exactly does the City need to project? Who gets to decide? Do you believe that City has some untainted image and hasn't already been compared to those other towns (even though they have the "these establishments" and we don't)? Of course, a more "family" oriented business could be preferred, but again, business is business and a tax asset and income generating for our area. I guess I don't see why it is fair to deny a legal business because we just don't like the "image" it will portray. Sex sells. Is it good, moral, or "right"? Probably not, depending on the circumstances. but if it pays for all those parks, police, fireman, schools, and resources a community uses then so be it. I don't believe the City has worried enough about its image, and that is our whole problem. We have sold ourselves out for the easy dollar instead of making an effort to bring real jobs here. And this isn't going to help our parks, police, and fire. Those dollars will go to the county still. I'm not interested in furthering the perception of being little Gary anymore. Hopefully the community agrees with me and speaks up. |
Nov 11 2011, 08:31 PM
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Owners on the land based on county assessor office
http://beacon.schneidercorp.com/Applicatio...516351002000046 |
Nov 12 2011, 01:43 AM
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Owners on the land based on county assessor office http://beacon.schneidercorp.com/Applicatio...516351002000046 Appears to be owned by a couple of people trying to sell off (and make some really heavy coin) from their parents inheritance. I believe that area is not serviced by sewers. I wonder if a septic system can handle the amount of people who would go to that business. No city water or sewer means patrons will be enjoying watered down drinks mixed with contaminated leachate coming directly across the highway from the Deercroft landfill. The establlishment would fall under the jusridiction of the La Porte county sheriffs department and Coolspring fire department. How would semi's coming off/back onto I-94 be able to ingress and egress the property? Is this property even suitable to handle semi traffic? Is 4.6 acres enough land to handle semi parking? |
Nov 12 2011, 04:28 AM
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So, a mile or so out side of "town limits"? Any business that close would still have an financial benefit on the surrounding area (hotels, restaurants, gas stations, ect). These type of establishments are not designed for the casual tourist looking to unwind and spend their disposable income in Michigan City for the weekend. They are designed for the lonely trucker that's been out on the road for six days straight away from his wife looking to get off the innerstate and looking to get a quick and cheap thrill for the night before getting back on the road. |
Nov 12 2011, 08:05 AM
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Hell, we already have a casino, I would consider this a step up.
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Nov 14 2011, 09:29 AM
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I figured the people trying to open this place were from the Chicago area.
http://thenewsdispatch.com/articles/2011/1...c4387471596.txt QUOTE Harbor manager speaks out against proposed strip club By Tim Moran Staff Writer Published: Sunday, November 13, 2011 5:07 PM CST MICHIGAN CITY — A proposed gentleman’s club is planned by an Illinois businessman on U.S. 421 near Interstate 94, and at least one nearby business manager is not happy about it. If the La Porte County Board of Zoning Appeals approves a variance request at its Tuesday, Nov. 15, meeting, the property at 3205 N. U.S. 421 will change hands from local owners Jack Sturken and Barbara LaGrossa to John Burys, Alsip, Ill. Burys has indicated through the meeting’s agenda he plans to operate a “gentleman’s club” at the location once new zoning ordinances designating the area as a B3 zone take effect. Tom Little, operations manager at nearby Harbor Chevrolet Buick GMC, opposes the request filed Oct. 26. He points out that U.S. 421 gives access to “several” educational and recreational centers in the area, including Purdue University-North Central, Patriot Park and Coolspring Elementary School. “There are several facilities that road gives access to,” he said. “Many of those involve young kids.” He says the Harbor dealership has “always tried to keep a clean image,” and a business like that would “put a tarnish on that.” Vehicles parked in the Harbor parking lot also could be at risk, Little claims, because the proposed “adult cabaret,” as it is referred to in Burys’ petition, is in “baseball throwing distance.” According to the petition, Burys and Phoenix Ventures LLC also request to be “allowed signage that will be permitted in the future B3 zones.” But Little says having a place like that could lead to safety issues. “The mixing of alcohol and excitement can lead to negative results,” he said. “If you look at where other similar type businesses are, we could experience more crime because of it.” Little says at least two Harbor representatives will attend Tuesday’s meeting, which is at 6 p.m. at La Porte County Complex, to speak against the variance proposal. Repeated attempts to reach Burys were unsuccessful. |
Nov 14 2011, 12:49 PM
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