[backwoods]

Your house analogy is spot on backwoods but let me play Red Devil's Advocate here. What if your neighbor has a house that looks just plain awful and it is bringing down property values. You see your neighbor has clutter in his yard for the last 3 years. You have talked to him about cleaning up the house and have offered to help. Your neighbor has trouble opening up a paint can. When he has been able to open it paint goes everywhere. He refuses to use a ladder, doesn't know what a roller is and the only paint brush he has is a small artist's brush that he also uses for his paint by numbers playbook. Is that when families in the neighborhood move or change school districts?

You know, I read your comments here and I got every bit of your twists on words that you used. I will not comment on those because I don't know all the details for the situation. But I will say that if everyone is not on the same page, it will only get worse.

On another note, as in any position where people want to voluteer to help out with, you have to be selective on who you allow helping out. Alot of people bring alot of good things to the table, but are you willing to deal with or are you able to deal with some of the "Baggage" that comes along with them. Everyone has their own baggage in one way or another, but others have more than some want to deal with. In Buisness today that is why we do background checks on the people that we interview to see what else they might be bringing to the table with them other than what is on their Resume. And yes, we have looked over the person who had the best interview and the best Resume after the limited background check has been done. Right or wrong, that is just the way it is.

[taxthedeer]

You know, I read your comments here and I got every bit of your twists on words that you used. I will not comment on those because I don't know all the details for the situation. But I will say that if everyone is not on the same page, it will only get worse.

The football program had an 0-7 conference record at the varsity, JV and freshmen levels. How can things possibly get worse. You need to flip your page.

[Southsider2k12]

The football program had an 0-7 conference record at the varsity, JV and freshmen levels. How can things possibly get worse. You need to flip your page.

Sounds great in theory. The problem is the pop warner program is built on two high school football non-realities. There are no older-lighters, and there are no weight limits. So the feeder program is built on two things that hurt the HS program.

[Jesse B]

The football program had an 0-7 conference record at the varsity, JV and freshmen levels. How can things possibly get worse. You need to flip your page.

Someone needs to find out why the "Coach" can't live with other people coaching his kids? It is almost funny because I think over the last few years I can name no less than 8 coaches with the football program that have coached in the MC Pop Warner system. As for flipping the page Tax, your "Coach" has played a huge role in discourging kids from playing football in MC in quite a few instances. You might not realize it but he has, yet he continues to want to be the savior that brings all the talent together. Instead of petioning the principal and the AD he might be better served volunteering his services to the Gary Public School system and take "his" kids there for grades 9-12. I am sure it would be a win-win for everyone. With the current voucher system you can pretty much go where you want to. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[outsider]

Sounds great in theory. The problem is the pop warner program is built on two high school football non-realities. There are no older-lighters, and there are no weight limits. So the feeder program is built on two things that hurt the HS program.

Just my two cents on how Penn HS does it. The rocket league and Middle school coaches have meetings with the Penn HS coaches twice a year. The August meeting is Penn HS introduction of the offense/defense schemes they want taught in middle school and in rocket league which are usually the same every year as they are basic. The January meeting is to instruct the rocket league and other club coaches on the training/conditioning the kids should be doing in the spring and the summer. Over here, rocket football is a year round club. The rocket league board of directors consist entirely of Penn HS football alumni. Middle school coaches run a very vanilla version of the HS offense/defensive schemes. Kids who play on middle school teams go back into rocket club when middle school season is over. Kids are also encouraged to do wrestling and track.

Over here, most sports require a full year commitment from ages 11 and up. With the way the football program does it over here - it is hard to argue with 5 state championships and 6 state runner-ups in the last 30 years (also lost in semi state another 11 times in those 30 years) and the countless number of kids recruited each year.

[Southsider2k12]

Just my two cents on how Penn HS does it. The rocket league and Middle school coaches have meetings with the Penn HS coaches twice a year. The August meeting is Penn HS introduction of the offense/defense schemes they want taught in middle school and in rocket league which are usually the same every year as they are basic. The January meeting is to instruct the rocket league and other club coaches on the training/conditioning the kids should be doing in the spring and the summer. Over here, rocket football is a year round club. The rocket league board of directors consist entirely of Penn HS football alumni. Middle school coaches run a very vanilla version of the HS offense/defensive schemes. Kids who play on middle school teams go back into rocket club when middle school season is over. Kids are also encouraged to do wrestling and track.

Over here, most sports require a full year commitment from ages 11 and up. With the way the football program does it over here - it is hard to argue with 5 state championships and 6 state runner-ups in the last 30 years (also lost in semi state another 11 times in those 30 years) and the countless number of kids recruited each year.

That is the way programs are built in successful towns.

[sunny]

--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jesse B @ Feb 22 2014, 03:02 PM) </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
Someone needs to find out why the "Coach" can't live with other people coaching his kids? It is almost funny because I think over the last few years I can name no less than 8 coaches with the football program that have coached in the MC Pop Warner system. As for flipping the page Tax, your "Coach" has played a huge role in discourging kids from playing football in MC in quite a few instances. You might not realize it but he has, yet he continues to want to be the savior that brings all the talent together. Instead of petioning the principal and the AD he might be better served volunteering his services to the Gary Public School system and take "his" kids there for grades 9-12. I am sure it would be a win-win for everyone. With the current voucher system you can pretty much go where you want to. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
[/quote]
Didn't we just have a successful 8th grade football team? And those kids were able to be successful WITHOUT "him" being one of the coaches. Which proves we can win without "him" coaching our kids. We should promote the coach (I'm sorry, I don't know who he is) from that 8th grade football team to the high school level. This former Pop Warner "coach" has a group of 4 or 5 parents that are loyal to him and will continue to follow him. There is a much larger group of parents that do not want this man anywhere near their children. He has managed to alienate a number of former friends, parents and children. As Jesse B has stated, he has also discouraged a number of kids from playing football in MC. He has recently petitioned to coach and volunteer at the high school level. We don't need coaches around our kids with his documented history. What we need are coaches with high school football experience or coaches that have played football in college. We need coaches that have high moral standards and are good role models for impressionable young men. IMO...this "coach" does not meet any of those criteria...Let him go coach in Gary, Indiana.

[backwoods]

2014 NFL combine results: 40-Yard Dash (Running Backs)

INDIANAPOLIS -- Dri Archer came up short of the combine record, but left no debate as to who the fastest running back is at the 2014 Scouting Combine, posting a 4.26-second 40-yard dash on Sunday. The former Kent St. speeders was a full 0.15 faster than Georgia Southern's Jerick McKinnon.

While the NFL credits Chris Johnson with the combine record with a 4.24 clocking in 2008, NFLDraftScout.com records list Trindon Holliday (2010) and Marquise Goodwin (2013) with 4.21 times. Archer's 4.26 ranks in a tie for seventh-fastest since 2000.

Everyone knew Archer was fast. The bigger question entering the combine was the straight-line speed of some of the elite running backs in this class. Arizona's Ka'Deem Carey, NFLDraftScout.com's top-rated running back entering the week, turned in a highly disappointing 4.70 time that could certainly affect his draft stock.

With little separating the top group of running backs, Tre Mason (4.50), Carlos Hyde (4.66 with a hamstring injury at the end of his run) and Bishop Sankey (4.49) could have closed that gap a bit Sunday.

Two of the running backs expected to push Archer for the top spot, Oregon's De'Anthony Thomas (4.50) and Baylor's Lache Seastrunk (4.51) failed to display the elite speed they have been known for.

(u) denotes unofficial

Dri Archer, Kent St. - 4.26 (4.28 u)

Jerick McKinnon, Georgia Southern - 4.41 (4.35 u)

Henry Josey, Missouri - 4.43 (4.40 u)

Damien Williams, Oklahoma - 4.45 (4.40 u)

LaDarius Perkins, Mississippi St. - 4.46 (4.40 u)

George Atkinson, Notre Dame - 4.48 (4.39 u)

Tim Cornett, UNLV - 4.48 (4.45 u)

Charles Sims, West Virginia 4.48 (4.47 u)

Tyler Gaffney, Stanford - 4.49 (4.43 u)

Bishop Sankey, Washington - 4.49 (4.47 u)

De'Anthony Thomas, Oregon - 4.50 (4.34 u)

Tre Mason, Auburn - 4.50 (4.44 u)

Lache Seastrunk, Baylor - 4.51 (4.45 u)

Terrance West, Towson - 4.54 (4.56 u)

Andre Williams, Boston College - 4.56 (4.53 u)

Isaiah Crowell, Alabama St. - 4.57 (4.50 u)

James White, Wisconsin - 4.57 (4.52 u)

Devonta Freeman, Florida St. - 4.58 (4.50 u)

Lorenzo Taliaferro, Coastal Carolina - 4.58 (4.53 u)

Storm Johnson, Central Florida - 4.60 (4.50 u)

Alfred Blue, LSU - 4.63 (4.63 u)

Jeremy Hill, LSU - 4.66 (4.63 u)

Carlos Hyde, Ohio St. - 4.66 (4.62 u)

Kapri Bibbs, Colorado St. - 4.67 (4.60 u)

Ka'Deem Carey, Arizona - 4.70 (4.62 u)

Silas Redd, USC - 4.70 (4.68 u)

David Fluellen, Toledo - 4.72 (4.66 u)

Timothy Flanders, Sam Houston St. - 4.75 (4.65 u)

Antonio Andrews, Western Kentucky - 4.82 (4.69 u)

Jerome Smith, Syracuse - 4.84 (4.77 u)

James Wilder, Florida St. - 4.86 (4.78 u)

Ryan Hewitt, Stanford - 4.87 (4.70 u)

J.C. Copeland, LSU - 4.95 (4.93 u

Just asking a question. So based off of these numbers from the NFL Combine, the freshman that is going to LaLu or Marq. would have been the 2nd fastest person at he NFL Combine this year?

[Southsider2k12]

Just asking a question. So based off of these numbers from the NFL Combine, the freshman that is going to LaLu or Marq. would have been the 2nd fastest person at he NFL Combine this year?

This is worth a look.

http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?s=...t&p=2934956

[sunny]

2014 NFL combine results: 40-Yard Dash (Running Backs)

INDIANAPOLIS -- Dri Archer came up short of the combine record, but left no debate as to who the fastest running back is at the 2014 Scouting Combine, posting a 4.26-second 40-yard dash on Sunday. The former Kent St. speeders was a full 0.15 faster than Georgia Southern's Jerick McKinnon.

While the NFL credits Chris Johnson with the combine record with a 4.24 clocking in 2008, NFLDraftScout.com records list Trindon Holliday (2010) and Marquise Goodwin (2013) with 4.21 times. Archer's 4.26 ranks in a tie for seventh-fastest since 2000.

Everyone knew Archer was fast. The bigger question entering the combine was the straight-line speed of some of the elite running backs in this class. Arizona's Ka'Deem Carey, NFLDraftScout.com's top-rated running back entering the week, turned in a highly disappointing 4.70 time that could certainly affect his draft stock.

With little separating the top group of running backs, Tre Mason (4.50), Carlos Hyde (4.66 with a hamstring injury at the end of his run) and Bishop Sankey (4.49) could have closed that gap a bit Sunday.

Two of the running backs expected to push Archer for the top spot, Oregon's De'Anthony Thomas (4.50) and Baylor's Lache Seastrunk (4.51) failed to display the elite speed they have been known for.

(u) denotes unofficial

Dri Archer, Kent St. - 4.26 (4.28 u)

Jerick McKinnon, Georgia Southern - 4.41 (4.35 u)

Henry Josey, Missouri - 4.43 (4.40 u)

Damien Williams, Oklahoma - 4.45 (4.40 u)

LaDarius Perkins, Mississippi St. - 4.46 (4.40 u)

George Atkinson, Notre Dame - 4.48 (4.39 u)

Tim Cornett, UNLV - 4.48 (4.45 u)

Charles Sims, West Virginia 4.48 (4.47 u)

Tyler Gaffney, Stanford - 4.49 (4.43 u)

Bishop Sankey, Washington - 4.49 (4.47 u)

De'Anthony Thomas, Oregon - 4.50 (4.34 u)

Tre Mason, Auburn - 4.50 (4.44 u)

Lache Seastrunk, Baylor - 4.51 (4.45 u)

Terrance West, Towson - 4.54 (4.56 u)

Andre Williams, Boston College - 4.56 (4.53 u)

Isaiah Crowell, Alabama St. - 4.57 (4.50 u)

James White, Wisconsin - 4.57 (4.52 u)

Devonta Freeman, Florida St. - 4.58 (4.50 u)

Lorenzo Taliaferro, Coastal Carolina - 4.58 (4.53 u)

Storm Johnson, Central Florida - 4.60 (4.50 u)

Alfred Blue, LSU - 4.63 (4.63 u)

Jeremy Hill, LSU - 4.66 (4.63 u)

Carlos Hyde, Ohio St. - 4.66 (4.62 u)

Kapri Bibbs, Colorado St. - 4.67 (4.60 u)

Ka'Deem Carey, Arizona - 4.70 (4.62 u)

Silas Redd, USC - 4.70 (4.68 u)

David Fluellen, Toledo - 4.72 (4.66 u)

Timothy Flanders, Sam Houston St. - 4.75 (4.65 u)

Antonio Andrews, Western Kentucky - 4.82 (4.69 u)

Jerome Smith, Syracuse - 4.84 (4.77 u)

James Wilder, Florida St. - 4.86 (4.78 u)

Ryan Hewitt, Stanford - 4.87 (4.70 u)

J.C. Copeland, LSU - 4.95 (4.93 u

Just asking a question. So based off of these numbers from the NFL Combine, the freshman that is going to LaLu or Marq. would have been the 2nd fastest person at he NFL Combine this year?

Great post Backwoods! I was wondering the same thing. Brandon Cooks (Oregon St) ran a 4.33 and John Brown (Pittsburgh St) ran a 4.34. Both men are trained by top speed coach Ryan Flaherty from Pacific Athletic's based in San Diego, CA. Cooks and Sammy Watkins (Clemson) train with Flaherty and are hopefuls to make the Olympic team. These are 20 yr old men that train every day with some of the best trainers, most sophisticated equipment, and the best training facilities in the country. And we are fortunate enough to have a freshmen (14/15 year old) in MC come off the streets and beat the above times. Must be the coaching...hahaha

[Jesse B]

2014 NFL combine results: 40-Yard Dash (Running Backs)

INDIANAPOLIS -- Dri Archer came up short of the combine record, but left no debate as to who the fastest running back is at the 2014 Scouting Combine, posting a 4.26-second 40-yard dash on Sunday. The former Kent St. speeders was a full 0.15 faster than Georgia Southern's Jerick McKinnon.

While the NFL credits Chris Johnson with the combine record with a 4.24 clocking in 2008, NFLDraftScout.com records list Trindon Holliday (2010) and Marquise Goodwin (2013) with 4.21 times. Archer's 4.26 ranks in a tie for seventh-fastest since 2000.

Everyone knew Archer was fast. The bigger question entering the combine was the straight-line speed of some of the elite running backs in this class. Arizona's Ka'Deem Carey, NFLDraftScout.com's top-rated running back entering the week, turned in a highly disappointing 4.70 time that could certainly affect his draft stock.

With little separating the top group of running backs, Tre Mason (4.50), Carlos Hyde (4.66 with a hamstring injury at the end of his run) and Bishop Sankey (4.49) could have closed that gap a bit Sunday.

Two of the running backs expected to push Archer for the top spot, Oregon's De'Anthony Thomas (4.50) and Baylor's Lache Seastrunk (4.51) failed to display the elite speed they have been known for.

(u) denotes unofficial

Dri Archer, Kent St. - 4.26 (4.28 u)

Jerick McKinnon, Georgia Southern - 4.41 (4.35 u)

Henry Josey, Missouri - 4.43 (4.40 u)

Damien Williams, Oklahoma - 4.45 (4.40 u)

LaDarius Perkins, Mississippi St. - 4.46 (4.40 u)

George Atkinson, Notre Dame - 4.48 (4.39 u)

Tim Cornett, UNLV - 4.48 (4.45 u)

Charles Sims, West Virginia 4.48 (4.47 u)

Tyler Gaffney, Stanford - 4.49 (4.43 u)

Bishop Sankey, Washington - 4.49 (4.47 u)

De'Anthony Thomas, Oregon - 4.50 (4.34 u)

Tre Mason, Auburn - 4.50 (4.44 u)

Lache Seastrunk, Baylor - 4.51 (4.45 u)

Terrance West, Towson - 4.54 (4.56 u)

Andre Williams, Boston College - 4.56 (4.53 u)

Isaiah Crowell, Alabama St. - 4.57 (4.50 u)

James White, Wisconsin - 4.57 (4.52 u)

Devonta Freeman, Florida St. - 4.58 (4.50 u)

Lorenzo Taliaferro, Coastal Carolina - 4.58 (4.53 u)

Storm Johnson, Central Florida - 4.60 (4.50 u)

Alfred Blue, LSU - 4.63 (4.63 u)

Jeremy Hill, LSU - 4.66 (4.63 u)

Carlos Hyde, Ohio St. - 4.66 (4.62 u)

Kapri Bibbs, Colorado St. - 4.67 (4.60 u)

Ka'Deem Carey, Arizona - 4.70 (4.62 u)

Silas Redd, USC - 4.70 (4.68 u)

David Fluellen, Toledo - 4.72 (4.66 u)

Timothy Flanders, Sam Houston St. - 4.75 (4.65 u)

Antonio Andrews, Western Kentucky - 4.82 (4.69 u)

Jerome Smith, Syracuse - 4.84 (4.77 u)

James Wilder, Florida St. - 4.86 (4.78 u)

Ryan Hewitt, Stanford - 4.87 (4.70 u)

J.C. Copeland, LSU - 4.95 (4.93 u

Just asking a question. So based off of these numbers from the NFL Combine, the freshman that is going to LaLu or Marq. would have been the 2nd fastest person at he NFL Combine this year?

I hope the Wolves staff can utilize his speed if he decides to transfer. He would be one heck of a lock down corner or Weak side LBer.

[Jesse B]

Someone needs to find out why the "Coach" can't live with other people coaching his kids? It is almost funny because I think over the last few years I can name no less than 8 coaches with the football program that have coached in the MC Pop Warner system. As for flipping the page Tax, your "Coach" has played a huge role in discourging kids from playing football in MC in quite a few instances. You might not realize it but he has, yet he continues to want to be the savior that brings all the talent together. Instead of petioning the principal and the AD he might be better served volunteering his services to the Gary Public School system and take "his" kids there for grades 9-12. I am sure it would be a win-win for everyone. With the current voucher system you can pretty much go where you want to. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

I heard another rumor this week that the "coach" has had one of his future star players in his words "transfered" to "Chestertin". I'm sure the Duneland School Corp only takes scholar-athletes.
I'm sure there will be others which is too bad when you are trying to build a program.

[backwoods]

--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jesse B @ Feb 22 2014, 03:02 PM) </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
Someone needs to find out why the "Coach" can't live with other people coaching his kids? It is almost funny because I think over the last few years I can name no less than 8 coaches with the football program that have coached in the MC Pop Warner system. As for flipping the page Tax, your "Coach" has played a huge role in discourging kids from playing football in MC in quite a few instances. You might not realize it but he has, yet he continues to want to be the savior that brings all the talent together. Instead of petioning the principal and the AD he might be better served volunteering his services to the Gary Public School system and take "his" kids there for grades 9-12. I am sure it would be a win-win for everyone. With the current voucher system you can pretty much go where you want to. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
I heard another rumor this week that the "coach" has had one of his future star players in his words "transfered" to "Chestertin". I'm sure the Duneland School Corp only takes scholar-athletes.
I'm sure there will be others which is too bad when you are trying to build a program.

Ok, I am not as good as some to read between the lines. Can you elaborate on this one.