[taxthedeer]

How much you wanna bet they table it? I figure they think if they put it off long enough, it will go away.

I sat in the meeting for two and half hours last night. The county commission is adopting two ordinances to prevent establishments such as this from locating here. Some felt the ordinances needed to be stronger that what is being proposed such as banning billboard advertising. There was another suggestion that La Porte County needs to look into why there are no SOB's (sexually oriantated businness) of any kind in Porter County and adopt the same measures.

Everybody in the audiance got a good chuckle when Mr. Burys stated that he is trying to start a "healthy business".

[Southsider2k12]

I sat in the meeting for two and half hours last night. The county commission is adopting two ordinances to prevent establishments such as this from locating here. Some felt the ordinances needed to be stronger that what is being proposed such as banning billboard advertising. There was another suggestion that La Porte County needs to look into why there are no SOB's (sexually oriantated businness) of any kind in Porter County and adopt the same measures.

Everybody in the audiance got a good chuckle when Mr. Burys stated that he is trying to start a "healthy business".

Ordinances are a stupid idea. All that is going to do is get the county sued. There are better ways of going at this.

[Southsider2k12]

The meeting taxthedeer referred to is now available for download at

http://www.allcommunity.org/?page_id=846

[Tim]

I sat in the meeting for two and half hours last night. The county commission is adopting two ordinances to prevent establishments such as this from locating here. Some felt the ordinances needed to be stronger that what is being proposed such as banning billboard advertising. There was another suggestion that La Porte County needs to look into why there are no SOB's (sexually oriantated businness) of any kind in Porter County and adopt the same measures.

Everybody in the audiance got a good chuckle when Mr. Burys stated that he is trying to start a "healthy business".

lol@ "Healthy business".

This is the last thing Our Fair City needs.

[MC Born & Raised]

I get so tired of these types of created controversies. Don't like strip clubs? Don't go! Don't like medical marijuana? Don't smoke it! Don't like the casino? Nobody's putting a gun to your head!

You know what's gonna happen to the quality of life in Michigan City if this club gets approved? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. So sick of the drama queens. The argument about the "type of people" a club like that attracts doesn't hold water, either. The same people that would frequent a place like that frequent other bars, too. I don't see anybody starting any petitions to put Decoy's or Reilly's out of business.

Collectively, we need to get over ourselves. Just one man's opinion.

[Tim]

I get so tired of these types of created controversies. Don't like strip clubs? Don't go! Don't like medical marijuana? Don't smoke it! Don't like the casino? Nobody's putting a gun to your head!

You know what's gonna happen to the quality of life in Michigan City if this club gets approved? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. So sick of the drama queens. The argument about the "type of people" a club like that attracts doesn't hold water, either. The same people that would frequent a place like that frequent other bars, too. I don't see anybody starting any petitions to put Decoy's or Reilly's out of business.

Collectively, we need to get over ourselves. Just one man's opinion.

One could say you should get over yourself. I wouldn't, but one could.

Come on - your argument is like saying if you don't like heroin dealers don't do heroin. So just let the heroin dealers infect our city with their poison as long as it doesn't affect you personally?

[mcstumper]

Everytime I look at the name of this topic I think, "Yes... a Kohl's Truck Stop Strip Club. I could see myself shopping there."

[MC Born & Raised]

One could say you should get over yourself. I wouldn't, but one could.

Come on - your argument is like saying if you don't like heroin dealers don't do heroin. So just let the heroin dealers infect our city with their poison as long as it doesn't affect you personally?

Speaking of people who need to get over themselves ...

No, heroin is illegal. Strip clubs are not illegal. So, actually, it's nothing like that at all.

[MC Born & Raised]

Everytime I look at the name of this topic I think, "Yes... a Kohl's Truck Stop Strip Club. I could see myself shopping there."

Ha!

[Tim]

Speaking of people who need to get over themselves ...

No, heroin is illegal. Strip clubs are not illegal. So, actually, it's nothing like that at all.

Wow. You really don't get it.

You say "Don't like strip clubs? Don't go!"

No one here is looking at it from that perspective. Rather the effect these halls of sleaze will have on the image of Our Fair City.

It's a valid point of argument.

[MC Born & Raised]

Wow. You really don't get it.

You say "Don't like strip clubs? Don't go!"

No one here is looking at it from that perspective. Rather the effect these halls of sleaze will have on the image of Our Fair City.

It's a valid point of argument.

I "get it" perfectly. I'm saying it's an invalid argument. I think the impact a place like that has is GREATLY exaggerated.

I also "get" that nobody here is looking it from that perspective, which is why I introduced a NEW perspective. Get it?

[Tim]

I'm saying it's an invalid argument.

I think it's perfectly valid, especially in a city so focused on attracting tourist trade.

[MC Born & Raised]

I think it's perfectly valid, especially in a city so focused on attracting tourist trade.

Good point. Places that attract tourists NEVER have strip clubs. Ugh.

[Tim]

Good point. Places that attract tourists NEVER have strip clubs. Ugh.

Yes, I'm sure that's exactly what I said.

Weak.

[mc46360]

Good point. Places that attract tourists NEVER have strip clubs. Ugh.

Just want to let you know I at least agree with you MC Born & Raised. It's just another example of people trying to tell others how to live their lives.

[Tim]

Just want to let you know I at least agree with you MC Born & Raised. It's just another example of people trying to tell others how to live their lives.

Nope. It's another example of a city trying to put the best foot forward as for as projecting an image to potential money-spenders.

All you have to do is Google "strips clubs" to find cities all over America trying to ban these places. Why do you think that is? It has nothing to do with "people trying to tell others how to live their lives".

[MC Born & Raised]

Yes, I'm sure that's exactly what I said.

Weak.

You said a city so focused on attracting tourist trade shouldn't be interested in a business like this. No? I think yes. Yet, many, many successful tourist areas have strip clubs, wouldn't you say? So, therefore, I would conclude that having a strip club does not preclude an area from being successful in attracting tourists or other tourist trade. Which was exactly my original point.

[Tim]

You said a city so focused on attracting tourist trade shouldn't be interested in a business like this. No? I think yes. Yet, many, many successful tourist areas have strip clubs, wouldn't you say? So, therefore, I would conclude that having a strip club does not preclude an area from being successful in attracting tourists or other tourist trade. Which was exactly my original point.

And I would conclude you're wrong. There are indeed places where strip clubs are more part of the fabric of the area they're in. Michigan City is not one of those places. As I stated above, all you have to do is Google around and you'll see cities all over America trying to either ban or keep out strip clubs. Why so you think that is? Because someone "needs to get over themselves"?

And BTW -

"You said a city so focused on attracting tourist trade shouldn't be interested in a business like this."

I never said that.

[MC Born & Raised]

And I would conclude you're wrong. There are indeed places where strip clubs are more part of the fabric of the area they're in. Michigan City is not one of those places. As I stated above, all you have to do is Google around and you'll see cities all over America trying to either ban or keep out strip clubs. Why so you think that is? Because someone "needs to get over themselves"?

And BTW -

"You said a city so focused on attracting tourist trade shouldn't be interested in a business like this."

I never said that.

Stop using semantics to distract the argument. You said it's a valid argument "in a city so focused on attracting tourist trade." I made no leap in paraphrasing.

And yes, that's exactly what I think is going on in other places. People need to get over themselves. If we could get the same public outcry used against this strip club toward something actually productive like, I don't know, schools, for instance, we'd be much better off.

I just don't understand how it affects anyone. If you don't plan on patronizing the establishment, then don't. Would my quality of life suffer if I moved to a town that had a strip club? I'm thinking not.

[Tim]

Stop using semantics to distract the argument. You said it's a valid argument "in a city so focused on attracting tourist trade." I made no leap in paraphrasing.

And yes, that's exactly what I think is going on in other places. People need to get over themselves. If we could get the same public outcry used against this strip club toward something actually productive like, I don't know, schools, for instance, we'd be much better off.

I just don't understand how it affects anyone. If you don't plan on patronizing the establishment, then don't. Would my quality of life suffer if I moved to a town that had a strip club? I'm thinking not.

Yeah, but this isn't about you. This is about the image of the city. I feel a sleazy strip club would be a detriment to the image of Michigan City. So do a lot of people.

"I just don't understand how it affects anyone."

Obviously.