How about a CBTL "Swap Shop"? |
How about a CBTL "Swap Shop"? |
Sep 11 2009, 03:21 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: 25-December 07 Member No.: 756 |
Hey admins...here's an idea. How about a CBTL "swap shop" - an online garage sale as it were. No spam...no businesses...no hookers...keep it to 3-4 items per member. I don't want to use the term "Cr**slist" to describe it, but you know what I mean. Just an idea...let me know what you think!
"If a man opens the car door for his wife, it's either a new car or a new wife." - Duke of Edinburgh.
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Sep 11 2009, 10:46 PM
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Spends WAY too much time at CBTL Group: Admin Posts: 5,171 Joined: 11-December 06 From: Indiana Member No.: 10 |
Caddy, we'll discuss this idea and get back to ya.
In the meantime, what do the other members think? I would like everyone's input on this to help us come to a decision. Thanks. Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind~Dr. Suess
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Sep 12 2009, 07:50 AM
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Spends WAY too much time at CBTL Group: Admin Posts: 16,421 Joined: 8-December 06 From: Michigan City, IN Member No.: 2 |
I help run a much bigger board for the White Sox and we do a ticket exchange on there. The big rule there is that we don't sell anything over face value. I know that wouldn't be applicable here, but the big thing is that we would want to make sure of a few of things.
#1 That everything is on the up and up. #2 The website itself will take NO responsibility for the transactions. We could also think about requirements to be able to buy and sell items, such as minimum post counts, or some sort of extra registry with the site's administration that includes name, address, and phone numbers of people who want to participate to add another potential security step. As the owner of the site, I think it could be a good idea, but we have to make sure that all who want to be involved are ok with the potential risk involved. I know 99.9% of the time everything is fine, but just in case, I do want to emphasize the potential of problems that could occur, just to be safe. Thoughts? |
Sep 12 2009, 08:20 AM
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Really Comfortable Group: Members Posts: 2,005 Joined: 6-July 09 From: In Front of a computer screen Member No.: 929 |
I help run a much bigger board for the White Sox and we do a ticket exchange on there. The big rule there is that we don't sell anything over face value. I know that wouldn't be applicable here, but the big thing is that we would want to make sure of a few of things. #1 That everything is on the up and up. #2 The website itself will take NO responsibility for the transactions. We could also think about requirements to be able to buy and sell items, such as minimum post counts, or some sort of extra registry with the site's administration that includes name, address, and phone numbers of people who want to participate to add another potential security step. As the owner of the site, I think it could be a good idea, but we have to make sure that all who want to be involved are ok with the potential risk involved. I know 99.9% of the time everything is fine, but just in case, I do want to emphasize the potential of problems that could occur, just to be safe. Thoughts? I was going to reccommend doing some sort of "Who's Hiring?" type of thing. |
Sep 12 2009, 11:50 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 50 Joined: 5-February 08 From: Florida Member No.: 771 |
Hey admins...here's an idea. How about a CBTL "swap shop" - an online garage sale as it were. No spam...no businesses...no hookers...keep it to 3-4 items per member. I don't want to use the term "Cr**slist" to describe it, but you know what I mean. Just an idea...let me know what you think! A couple things I've seen on other boards that make this type of thing successful: 1) Members must have X number of posts(usually 20-50) before being allowed to sell/swap anything. This keeps people from just selling things and not being part of the 'community' and also keeps selling 'bots out. 2) Everything must be included in the post. No links to other websites where the actual sales occur. 3) Hookers are allowed and encouraged. |
Sep 12 2009, 12:08 PM
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Spends WAY too much time at CBTL Group: Admin Posts: 16,421 Joined: 8-December 06 From: Michigan City, IN Member No.: 2 |
A couple things I've seen on other boards that make this type of thing successful: 1) Members must have X number of posts(usually 20-50) before being allowed to sell/swap anything. This keeps people from just selling things and not being part of the 'community' and also keeps selling 'bots out. 2) Everything must be included in the post. No links to other websites where the actual sales occur. 3) Hookers are allowed and encouraged. #2 and #3 are very excellent points. #2 will be a requirement for sure if we do this. |
Sep 12 2009, 03:25 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 23-August 09 Member No.: 944 |
This site would need more members to make it worthwhile, however that could help add membership at the same time. I have seen other boards make members make a donation like $25.00 per year to be able to post items for sale although anyone can view the items for sale. This keeps out the junk sellers, selling bots, etc....The collected money is then used for upkeep of the site and server space.
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Sep 14 2009, 08:35 AM
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Spends WAY too much time at CBTL Group: Admin Posts: 16,421 Joined: 8-December 06 From: Michigan City, IN Member No.: 2 |
That's not a bad idea, but the site is fine financially. It is pretty much a zero cost for it. I do believe we can keep the bots and spammers out without much trouble. Personally I am most worried about things being safe for people who are regulars here.
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Sep 14 2009, 11:13 AM
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Spends WAY too much time at CBTL Group: Admin Posts: 5,171 Joined: 11-December 06 From: Indiana Member No.: 10 |
How about this: If you've got something you want to get rid of, post it along with the amount you're asking for it. If anyone is interested, they can PM you. If you're looking for something, post that along with the amount you're willing pay. If anyone has it and the amount is fair, again-PM. This way, the barter is done privately and we won't have a bunch of personal info on the board. Use this thread to post the item.
For example: I need dishes/glasses/silverware. When I left WY I gave all the stuff away cause it was mis-matched, etc. Pretty soon I'm going to be moving into a place of my own and will need all that, so if anyone has any, PM me and we'll discuss how much you want for it. Thanks. Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind~Dr. Suess
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Sep 14 2009, 05:21 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: 25-December 07 Member No.: 756 |
That's kind of the idea I was thinking - simple, private, no liability...using PM makes it very easy, IMO
For example, I have an old Beatles album, Introducing The Beatles, which came out right before the blockbuster Meet The Beatles. No scratches, great shape. Someone who is into Beatles memorabilia should be all over this. I'm looking to get $80 out of it...any questions, let me know. Thanks! "If a man opens the car door for his wife, it's either a new car or a new wife." - Duke of Edinburgh.
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Sep 14 2009, 06:28 PM
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Really Comfortable Group: Members Posts: 1,099 Joined: 11-January 07 Member No.: 19 |
I would say it's not a bad idea if we all had something in common, such as being White Sox fans. Otherwise, craigslist has the free, local market cornered with a much larger audience. I tend to get the most $ on ebay.
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Sep 14 2009, 07:10 PM
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Really Comfortable Group: Members Posts: 2,005 Joined: 6-July 09 From: In Front of a computer screen Member No.: 929 |
I forsee this being Michigan City's version of ebaymotors.com
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Sep 14 2009, 09:56 PM
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Really Comfortable Group: Members Posts: 627 Joined: 9-February 07 Member No.: 41 |
That's not a bad idea, but the site is fine financially. It is pretty much a zero cost for it. I do believe we can keep the bots and spammers out without much trouble. Personally I am most worried about things being safe for people who are regulars here. I say we consult Dave for a disclaimer. He is pretty good at em! |
Sep 15 2009, 08:44 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 188 Joined: 10-April 08 Member No.: 783 |
Maybe a "start" to a disclaimer?
By using the CBTL Swap Feature, you explicitly agree that you understand that there are no representations of any kind whatsoever made as to the veracity, condition, or true value of the services or items offered herein. This feature is strictly “use at your own risk” and relies solely on the honesty of the users. In addition, the CBTL Swap Feature will not tolerate spam nor commercial advertising and may be discontinued at any time. |
Sep 15 2009, 09:00 AM
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Really Comfortable Group: Members Posts: 2,005 Joined: 6-July 09 From: In Front of a computer screen Member No.: 929 |
Maybe a "start" to a disclaimer? By using the CBTL Swap Feature, you explicitly agree that you understand that there are no representations of any kind whatsoever made as to the veracity, condition, or true value of the services or items offered herein. This feature is strictly “use at your own risk” and relies solely on the honesty of the users. In addition, the CBTL Swap Feature will not tolerate spam nor commercial advertising and may be discontinued at any time. Can we sell guns? |
Sep 15 2009, 09:09 AM
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Spends WAY too much time at CBTL Group: Admin Posts: 5,171 Joined: 11-December 06 From: Indiana Member No.: 10 |
As long as they're not stolen, I don't think there would be a problem.
SSder? Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind~Dr. Suess
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Sep 15 2009, 09:40 AM
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Really Comfortable Group: Members Posts: 2,005 Joined: 6-July 09 From: In Front of a computer screen Member No.: 929 |
As long as they're not stolen, I don't think there would be a problem. SSder? When I sold all my grandpa's old guns through www.gunbroker.com that's what I had to adhere to (Ol' gramps didn't need 'em anymore but we needed the dough). Plus this is the WORLD wide web, we don't want Michigan City arming the Taliban. I'd say firearms are a no-no. What about Indiana sales tax? anything sold within state requires 7%. BTW, Your stolen goods principle should apply to everything. |
Sep 23 2009, 05:21 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 1-March 07 From: Arizona Member No.: 76 |
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Oct 16 2009, 08:03 AM
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Really Comfortable Group: Members Posts: 1,099 Joined: 11-January 07 Member No.: 19 |
Alot of folks wish it were that simple, The problem is state and federal LAW requires that all firearm sale transfers are to be handled through a Federal Firearms Licence holder such as Kemph's, Maple City Sports, La Porte Sporting Goods, Blythe's, Rangemasters, Bass Pro, etc. When I sold all my grandpa's old guns through www.gunbroker.com that's what I had to adhere to (Ol' gramps didn't need 'em anymore but we needed the dough). What about Indiana sales tax? anything sold within state requires 7%. BTW, Your stolen goods principle should apply to everything. Yeah, I don't think selling guns on this site is a good idea, lol. That said, you're information isn't correct as far as all sales needing to be handled through a Federal Firearms Dealer. For Gunbroker, it's required because A: it's thier law B: you're more than likely selling across state lines. Here is the LAW: <A href="http://www.lcav.org/content/private_sales.pdf">Private firearms transfers (i.e., transfers by non-firearms dealers) are not subject to a background check requirement in Indiana, although federal and state purchaser prohibitions still apply. Indiana Code Annotated § 35-47-2-8 specifically notes that the handgun sales regulations under Chapter 35-47-2 (i.e., the prohibited purchaser provisions) apply equally to an occasional sale, trade, or transfer between individual persons and to retail transactions between dealers and individual persons. See the Indiana Background Checks section. Pursuant to section 35-47-2-7(a), a person may not sell, give, or in any other manner transfer the ownership or possession of a handgun or assault weapon to any person under age 18, except an individual acting within a parent-minor child or guardian-minor protected person relationship, or any other individual who is also acting in compliance with section 35-47-10 (provisions relating to children and firearms). Indiana prohibits any person from selling, giving, or in any manner transferring the ownership or possession of a handgun to another individual the transferor has reasonable cause to believe:
Section 35-47-2.5-14( provides that a person is criminally liable for a Class D felony if he or she purchases a handgun with the intent to:
Any person who sells, barters, gives, or delivers any deadly weapon to any person in a state of intoxication, knowing him or her to be in a state of intoxication, or to any person who is in the habit of becoming intoxicated, and knowing him or her to be a person who is in the habit of becoming intoxicated, commits a Class B misdemeanor. Section 35-47-4-1. Although section 35-47-2.5-1 specifically excludes Indiana residents licensed to carry handguns from the handgun sales requirements of Chapter 35-47-2.5, the Indiana State Police have stated that this statute became inoperative on October 1, 2003, when Indiana licenses to carry a handgun ceased being an alternative to background checks under the federal Brady Act. See the Indiana Carrying Firearms section. The Indiana Code does not address the private sale of rifles or shotguns. |
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