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post Jan 23 2008, 07:20 AM
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Having lived in the vicinity of 11th Street many years ago, I think having the tracks there is still a hindrance to development...seriously - would you want to walk out your front door and see this big train going by? There was a coal run that would go through around 11:00 PM shaking the windows - and I was 2 houses away from 11th.


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The reason that the Golden Triangle has failed to this point is that the City has done nothing to help it grow.

Think of MC this way. We are a major college basketball program in a power confrence. The problem is we have been down for a long time, while other programs have had good winning histories recently. People aren't going to go here easily, they need to be convinced. They will go to the other schools because of their reputations for winning. We as a City need to really work at building up our assets and working hard on recruiting, neither of which we have really done so far. We just kind of expected people to just show up, because. It doesn't work that way. We need something to get people excited about here, and to make them feel we are on the upswing. Back to the example, we need to hit the recruiting trail, and hit it hard.
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http://thenewsdispatch.com/main.asp?Sectio...;ArticleID=9041

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City Embraces Redevelopment Plans
Plan Commission OKs proposal that can be used in concert with university study.

Jason Miller
The News-Dispatch

MICHIGAN CITY - When they decide it's time to begin North End redevelopment efforts in earnest, Michigan City officials are going to have their hands full.

The city's Plan Commission approved a redevelopment plan Tuesday submitted by the Chicago design firm Lohan Anderson. It is the second presented in less than a week to city officials which deals, at least in part, with redeveloping the Trail Creek corridor between U.S. 12 and Eighth Street.

Late last week, the Andrews University Urban Design Studio presented its North End redevelopment plan, which had been in the works since last summer.

Tuesday's presentation described everything from a bustling creekside community to an aerial tramway leading from near Blue Chip Casino to Washington Park beach.

The most prominent aspect of the plan is the recommendation that three 24-story high-rise buildings be built along the creek amid a mixture of residential and retail areas.

"This is simply a concept plan," Lohan Anderson Director of Planning Joel Stauber said Tuesday. "It would give the city more control over development of that 50 acres. It's not a final master plan. It establishes a framework for development and allows the city to establish up front where it stands on development."

Fourth-Ward Michigan City Councilwoman Pat Boy said Tuesday the Lohan Anderson study and the more in-depth Andrews study could compliment each other if officials choose to use both in planning changes.

"I think it's a good idea," she said. "It's an enormous plan. As a concept, I like it, the overall plan I think is good. The two will work together pretty well."

Redevelopment Comm-ission Attorney Michael Bergerson said the Lohan plan could come together fairly easily because the area in question is in a Tax Increment Financing district.

Money from tax revenues of other businesses in the district is available for the addition and improvement of infrastructure in the area.

The City Council now will get a look at the study, and if it passes the plan, it will go back to the redevelopment commission.
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post Jan 23 2008, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(Dave @ Jan 23 2008, 12:30 AM) *

Elevated railway? Like the El in Chicago? Who is proposing anything like that for the SS?

As for the drive being three minutes, well, for one thing that works both ways. The Andrews U. plan proposes showcasing the SS station on 11th., and includes parking. As for sacrificing prime real estate, it doesn't seem to be very prime at the moment. It will hopefully be prime in the future, but it need to be revitalized first. And I think moving the SS away from the north end is a major step in the wrong direction towards acheiving that goal.


I think we are talking about two different things here. There is an existing post that goes over this ad nauseum. There are three proposals on the table for the South Shore, as I understand it. Move it north along Trail Creek which would require an elevated track to clear Trail Creek since the existing swing bridge wouldn't work for an electrified railway. 2. Move it south along the CSX tracks by Ames Field. 3. Leave it alone.

Like I said, find the post and you can see everyone's opinions on the subject in detail...


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post Jan 23 2008, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(lovethiscity @ Jan 23 2008, 06:37 AM) *

Please don't come up with an opinion soley on two people moving into your Parish. Michigan City has had a populaltion decline for over thirty years. Expert projections are not very promising for the next ten either. Very bleak actualy when compared to Lake and Porter.

Population projections from the Indiana Business Research Center indicate that, by 2020, the Michigan City–La Porte metro will grow 2.3 percent (about 2,500 people) from current levels. This is significantly slower than the state’s anticipated growth of 8.1 percent. The area is expected to have about 5,000 more senior citizens than it did in Census 2000. The growth rate of 34.1 percent for those 65 and older is slower than the state’s anticipated growth of 40.6 percent. However, the metro has a slightly older population to begin with and by 2020, nearly 18 percent of the population will be in the upper age group.

Updated growth projections released Friday for Lake and Porter counties show a 239 percent increase over a prior population forecast, according to a South Shore Railroad consultant.


You are right. I think we tend to create opinions based on what we see right in front of us. Besides what I have seen in church, three very close neighbors are all people who moved here from Chicago.

I wonder if the forecasters actually predicted the rapid redevelopment and growth in those Chicago neighborhoods south of Loop, or did they need to go back and adjust numbers once the trend began?


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post Jan 23 2008, 07:30 PM
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The reason that the Golden Triangle has failed to this point is that the City has done nothing to help it grow.

Think of MC this way. We are a major college basketball program in a power confrence. The problem is we have been down for a long time, while other programs have had good winning histories recently. People aren't going to go here easily, they need to be convinced. They will go to the other schools because of their reputations for winning. We as a City need to really work at building up our assets and working hard on recruiting, neither of which we have really done so far. We just kind of expected people to just show up, because. It doesn't work that way. We need something to get people excited about here, and to make them feel we are on the upswing. Back to the example, we need to hit the recruiting trail, and hit it hard.


I'm not sure whether I agree with this statement or not. The lack of private development is the problem. Nobody seems to want to make the first commitment. Whether it's the Warren Building, the old St. John's church or the Eagle Building. Everyone is sitting and waiting for that sign from above. Does government really need to spearhead this, or should an association of private, interested parties be actively recruiting investors with more guts.


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post Jan 23 2008, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(mcstumper @ Jan 23 2008, 07:30 PM) *

I'm not sure whether I agree with this statement or not. The lack of private development is the problem. Nobody seems to want to make the first commitment. Whether it's the Warren Building, the old St. John's church or the Eagle Building. Everyone is sitting and waiting for that sign from above. Does government really need to spearhead this, or should an association of private, interested parties be actively recruiting investors with more guts.

Let's look at a triangle, three legs, three angles, all connected. In the case of our GOLDEN TRIANGLE their is quite a bit missing. There are no legs or angles connecting it. Realistically they have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Hell, they have no connection to each other what so ever, there is no easy clear cut path for a visitor to go from one of these attractions to another. Out of town visitors having one of them as their primary destinations have a difficult time finding it. We really need to rid ourselves of the Franklin Street turn-around. Somebody please move the LIBRARY.
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post Jan 24 2008, 07:20 AM
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QUOTE(mcstumper @ Jan 23 2008, 07:30 PM) *

I'm not sure whether I agree with this statement or not. The lack of private development is the problem. Nobody seems to want to make the first commitment. Whether it's the Warren Building, the old St. John's church or the Eagle Building. Everyone is sitting and waiting for that sign from above. Does government really need to spearhead this, or should an association of private, interested parties be actively recruiting investors with more guts.


You have to remember, we aren't talking about a primo locale when compared to our neighbors. Why would people want to be the first to make a commitment when they could slide into a much more established and reliable community like Chesterton, Valpo, New Buffalo, etc. We don't have the luxuries that they have, so we have to be more aggressive in selling ourselves. People want to know that Michigan City is serious about fixing itself before they are going to be serious about moving/building/opening here. Outsiders, who are going to be the big push here, don't have our level of civic pride, and they have no reason to. Until they live here and acclimate, they won't. They are looking at MC like they would any other town. MC's leadership needs to step into this vacuum and sell this City.
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http://thenewsdispatch.com/main.asp?Sectio...amp;TM=57991.57

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Eminent Domain
City Goes To Court To Seize Two Parcels

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It is unfortunate that Michigan City is using eminent domain to acquire two pieces or property along the Trail Creek corridor. The Redevelopment Commission, through its attorney, Michael Bergerson, filed the eminent domain petition in Superior Court 3 last week to acquire Weber Sign Co. and the Ice House, a vacant building owned by Thomas and Florence Sobkowiak.

Eminent domain is when a government seizes property that belongs to someone else. Although the government is required to pay for the property, when it involves an ongoing business like Weber Sign Co., the value of the business can vary dramatically. That is what has happened.

Because of contamination underneath those properties - contamination that is no fault of either property owner - once the city acquires the land it will have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to clean it up. As a result, Michigan City offered Weber Sign $1 for the property and $175,000 as a "relocation fee."

Eminent domain is always controversial. Because it is a lethal weapon that government can use, it should only be used as a last resort. Because negotiations have been going on for about five years to acquire the land, the city obviously feels it has reached the end of the line.

What makes it difficult is that it could put a viable company out of business, or at the least force it to move. Neither is acceptable to the owners of Weber Sign. Kathy Weber said the city's offer simply isn't enough for it to equip a new building to suit its needs and move.

There is a desperate need for the city to improve the Trail Creek corridor and Mayor Chuck Oberlie has promised to make that and North End development priorities of the city this year.

The unfortunate fact is that to accomplish that, the owners of two pieces of property have been told by the city they have no choice but to sell, whether they like the offer or not.

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The Issue: The Redevelopment Commission is seeking a court order to acquire Weber Sign Co. and the "ice house."

Our Opinion: It is unfortunate that eminent domain is being resorted to. It always should be a last resort, but when the sides can't agree, only a court can set the amount of compensation
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post Jan 26 2008, 08:26 PM
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I have to say I have philosophical problems with using eminent domain to effectively take property away from one private party and give it to another. I'm all for north end redevelopment, as you all know, but this kind of use of government power really bothers me. Roads and other such public works are one thing, but taking property so developers can build on it is something else.
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post Jan 26 2008, 10:45 PM
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I have to say I have philosophical problems with using eminent domain to effectively take property away from one private party and give it to another. I'm all for north end redevelopment, as you all know, but this kind of use of government power really bothers me. Roads and other such public works are one thing, but taking property so developers can build on it is something else.

Michael Bergerson running for Judge with his known stand on the issue is scary.
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post Jan 27 2008, 07:57 AM
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QUOTE(lovethiscity @ Jan 26 2008, 10:45 PM) *

Michael Bergerson running for Judge with his known stand on the issue is scary.


If he is for Eminent Domain on this issue, I won't vote for him.
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If he is for Eminent Domain on this issue, I won't vote for him.

He is the lawyer for the Redevelopment Commision. The one that as rumor has it was trying to buy these worthless property's privately before going after them through the commision. I think he needs to address this issue and if he was trying, he needs to recuse himself from the whole procedure.
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post Jan 27 2008, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(lovethiscity @ Jan 27 2008, 08:45 AM) *

He is the lawyer for the Redevelopment Commision. The one that as rumor has it was trying to buy these worthless property's privately before going after them through the commision. I think he needs to address this issue and if he was trying, he needs to recuse himself from the whole procedure.


You might want to get the facts straight before passing along malicious lies (under the guise of a rumor) that not only questions someone's integrity but accuses them of a criminal act.

The last time I checked, Bergerson did not have a vote on the Redevelopment Commission, the Planning Commission, or the City Council; these Boards unamimously or overwhelming approved the acquisition of this real estate.

If you want facts, they're public record...this property was included in the redevelopment area by at least 1997 and probably much, much earlier. Further, in the past two weeks, both Andrews University and Lohan Anderson independently presented their vision for the "golden triangle," and both recommended the acquisition and redevelopment of this real estate. The last time I checked, Bergerson had no financial interest in either.

Spreading false and malicious rumors is offensive and an insult to our intelligence. If you have any interest in the truth, just call Bergerson...like I did.

P.S. Anyway, I thought that the Webers said that they now want to sell, but want the City (you and me) to pick up the tab for their mess.
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post Jan 27 2008, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(mox1981 @ Jan 27 2008, 02:19 PM) *

The last time I checked, Bergerson did not have a vote on the Redevelopment Commission, the Planning Commission, or the City Council; these Boards unamimously or overwhelming approved the acquisition of this real estate.


I checked. You're right. As attorney for the Redevelopment Commission, he doesn't actually have a vote, though one would be silly to think that he isn't in a position of influence. If he were to have any kind of financial interest, ethically the least he would be expected to do would be to disclose that interest.

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(a) Except as provided in paragraph (b), a lawyer shall not represent a client if the representation involves a concurrent conflict of interest. A concurrent conflict of interest exists if:

(1) the representation of one client will be directly adverse to another client; or

(2) there is a significant risk that the representation of one or more clients will be materially limited by the lawyer's responsibilities to another client, a former client or a third person or by a personal interest of the lawyer.

(b) Notwithstanding the existence of a concurrent conflict of interest under paragraph (a), a lawyer may represent a client if:

(1) the lawyer reasonably believes that the lawyer will be able to provide competent and diligent representation to each affected client;

(2) the representation is not prohibited by law;

(3) the representation does not involve the assertion of a claim by one client against another client represented by the lawyer in the same litigation or other proceeding before a tribunal; and

(4) each affected client gives informed consent, confirmed in writing.


Now, I'm against spreading gossip and rumors as much as, if not more so, than the next person, but I'm not going to fly off the handle about it, calling people liars and the like, because I didn't know of the rumor before I read it here, and I don't have personal knowledge regarding the truth or falsity of the claim. Heck, I can imagine a scenario where Mr. Bergerson was acting as council for the RC and looking into acquisition of the property in question, and that could easily have been misinterpreted as something it wasn't (pure speculation here, of course).

On the other hand, if it turns out that anyone related to the Redevelopment Commission was doing anything like buying property effected by their official actions, I would be gung ho on getting them prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. As an exercise for my own personal edification, I may have to determine whether such a prosecution would be done on a state or a federal level.

As for the Webers being interested in selling their property, heck, they're running a business. If I offered NIPSCO a $1 trillion for their lakefront generating station, I betcha they'd sell it to me, but if I offered them $1 they wouldn't even answer my mail. The Webers own a piece of real estate which appears to have substantial money value, and they seem to want fair compensation for it. I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with using the power of government to take the property away from them to give it to someone else who gets to make a boatload of money on it.

Nice first post, mox1981. This is a good place for discussions and opinions.
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Nice first post, mox1981. This is a good place for discussions and opinions.


I wanted to add on to this a little bit. My favorite thing about this place is that it is open, and is completely determined by the people who want to share here. Every other piece of media in Michigan City is controlled to some extent. The News Dispatch publishes what it wants to publish. WIMS puts on air whom ever it wants to put on the air. Even the cable access TV shows like News and Views or Its Time to Blow the Whistle have control over who talks on their shows. When it comes to this place, anyone who has access to a computer can register and post. Anyone else who posts here has just as much of a voice as me, who owns this place. The thing about that kind of freedom is that things will get said that are wrong, offend people, or more. In cases where information is wrong, all that needs to be said is what is wrong, and what is true. The only thing I really ask for is civility in responding. We are a pretty easy going and open-minded bunch. Welcome to the board, and I hope to see you around more often.
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QUOTE(mox1981 @ Jan 27 2008, 02:19 PM) *

You might want to get the facts straight before passing along malicious lies (under the guise of a rumor) that not only questions someone's integrity but accuses them of a criminal act.

The last time I checked, Bergerson did not have a vote on the Redevelopment Commission, the Planning Commission, or the City Council; these Boards unamimously or overwhelming approved the acquisition of this real estate.

If you want facts, they're public record...this property was included in the redevelopment area by at least 1997 and probably much, much earlier. Further, in the past two weeks, both Andrews University and Lohan Anderson independently presented their vision for the "golden triangle," and both recommended the acquisition and redevelopment of this real estate. The last time I checked, Bergerson had no financial interest in either.

Spreading false and malicious rumors is offensive and an insult to our intelligence. If you have any interest in the truth, just call Bergerson...like I did.

P.S. Anyway, I thought that the Webers said that they now want to sell, but want the City (you and me) to pick up the tab for their mess.

The one that as rumor has it was trying to buy these worthless property's privately. So this is not true? You avoided this. I hope it is not true I would hope has has more integrety than that. As for the Weber mess, the paper said it was not caused by them. That would be like saying the pollution in the ground at the Trail Creek Marina was caused by Michigan City, and if it was caused by Michigan City did it leach onto the Weber property?
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The one that as rumor has it was trying to buy these worthless property's privately. So this is not true? You avoided this. I hope it is not true I would hope has has more integrety than that. As for the Weber mess, the paper said it was not caused by them. That would be like saying the pollution in the ground at the Trail Creek Marina was caused by Michigan City, and if it was caused by Michigan City did it leach onto the Weber property?


I think Bergerson himself would be in the best position to clear up any questions...I obviously have no inside information here.

The reason for my post is to try to understand what the point is here...if an unsubstantiated claim is put out about someone whose record is clean, is the onus of proof on the person making the claim or the person accused? The bottom line is - are you making a claim or floating rumors to see what sticks? I'd be interested to hear about the source of such information.

I'm not sure how the trail creek analogy relates to this issue. In reality, the Webers' property does not sit along the banks of Trail Creek. Not only is the property not "waterfront", but it appears to be at an elevation higher than Trail Creek. In light of the fact that water flows downhill, not even the Webers are making the claim that their property was contaminated by Trail Creek. Of course the Webers, in their own interest, will find people to blame (the city, the attorney, former property owners, etc.), but if they purchased the property without doing due diligence as to its environmental health, their property value may eventually suffer, whether they caused the contamination or not.

Meanwhile, the reality is that the pollution continues to pose a threat to the water quality of Trail Creek.

I appreciate the words of welcome to the board...I'm glad I found this great outlet for local issues!
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QUOTE(mox1981 @ Jan 29 2008, 01:25 PM) *

I think Bergerson himself would be in the best position to clear up any questions...I obviously have no inside information here.

Bergerson or the owners of the properties in question would have the answers...are any Webers members of CBTL?
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The reason for my post is to try to understand what the point is here...if an unsubstantiated claim is put out about someone whose record is clean, is the onus of proof on the person making the claim or the person accused? The bottom line is - are you making a claim or floating rumors to see what sticks? I'd be interested to hear about the source of such information.

Obviously the burden of proof is on whoever makes any claim. Some matters, which are readily apparent to our senses ("On a sunny day, the sky is blue"), require the proponent to present little proof. On the other hand. as Carl Sagan said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence ("I was abducted by space aliens"). I've heard rumors that "they" (you know, the "them" who no one is ever really able to identify--whenever I hear "they want to do 'x'," my first response is always, "Who are "they"?) want to bulldoze everything north of 11th street and put in high rise low income housing, like the late and unlamented Cabrini Green complex in Chicago. My response to this idea has always been to laugh out loud.

I would agree with moxie that Bergerson has no obligation to respond to unsubstantiated rumors. If anyone presented evidence that the rumors were based on fact, however, I'd expect an explanation.

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I'm not sure how the trail creek analogy relates to this issue. In reality, the Webers' property does not sit along the banks of Trail Creek. Not only is the property not "waterfront", but it appears to be at an elevation higher than Trail Creek. In light of the fact that water flows downhill, not even the Webers are making the claim that their property was contaminated by Trail Creek. Of course the Webers, in their own interest, will find people to blame (the city, the attorney, former property owners, etc.), but if they purchased the property without doing due diligence as to its environmental health, their property value may eventually suffer, whether they caused the contamination or not.

Meanwhile, the reality is that the pollution continues to pose a threat to the water quality of Trail Creek.
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When did the Webers buy the property? The business has been running for what, 25 years? Before Love Canal, did anyone even think about what kind of chemical gunk "buried treasures" previous real estate owners left behind when they sold? I guess what I'm saying is, how much "due diligence" was due when the Webers bought the property?
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I appreciate the words of welcome to the board...I'm glad I found this great outlet for local issues!


Welcome aboard!
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Here's a link to my last post in a related thread, "South spur cost going up" ---

http://www.citybythelake.org/forums/index....post&p=7348
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