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Uniforms at the High School
Should the student body at Michigan City High School be required to wear standard uniforms to school?
Yes [ 8 ] ** [53.33%]
No [ 7 ] ** [46.67%]
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post Aug 18 2010, 12:53 AM
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I vote yes, I've spoken with several parents and grandparents about this issue and they believe this should have been implemented years ago.

Please, just don't vote, tell us want you think.
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post Aug 18 2010, 07:54 AM
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I voted no. I think children should be allowed to express their individuality in public school. However, I think the schools need to enforce the dress code a little bit better. If a child is not appropriately dressed, there should be a strict code of discipline that is followed for every student by every teacher/administrator.


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post Aug 18 2010, 08:24 AM
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I voted yes. In this day and age, so much revolves around very simple things such as how you are dressed. Not only can it be a cause of things like Bullying, it can also be a great life lesson of how to dress appropriately for specific situations.
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post Aug 18 2010, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(southsiderMMX @ Aug 18 2010, 09:24 AM) *

I voted yes. In this day and age, so much revolves around very simple things such as how you are dressed. Not only can it be a cause of things like Bullying, it can also be a great life lesson of how to dress appropriately for specific situations.

They have classes to teach kids that, and how to pay their bills, balance a check book, etc.


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post Aug 18 2010, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(Ang @ Aug 18 2010, 10:31 AM) *

They have classes to teach kids that, and how to pay their bills, balance a check book, etc.


Not many kids take those classes.
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post Aug 18 2010, 12:59 PM
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Well, then they should make them mandatory. When I went to Griffith HS, they were mandatory for Freshman. I learned how to interview for a job, dress appropriately, make a household budget, balance a check book, etc. I think it was called Life Skills, or some such thing. It was one of my favorite classes, but only was a semester long, not a full year.


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QUOTE(Ang @ Aug 18 2010, 01:59 PM) *

Well, then they should make them mandatory. When I went to Griffith HS, they were mandatory for Freshman. I learned how to interview for a job, dress appropriately, make a household budget, balance a check book, etc. I think it was called Life Skills, or some such thing. It was one of my favorite classes, but only was a semester long, not a full year.


I wouldn't argue that, especially all of the basic financial skills.
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post Aug 18 2010, 04:33 PM
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I'm actually going to pose this question on the facebook page and see what we get.
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post Aug 18 2010, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE(southsiderMMX @ Aug 18 2010, 09:24 AM) *

I voted yes. In this day and age, so much revolves around very simple things such as how you are dressed. Not only can it be a cause of things like Bullying, it can also be a great life lesson of how to dress appropriately for specific situations.


Force is never a good teacher, IMO.

I don't know a lot about this issue, but it seems I've read of the benefits of the uniform thing in a school situation. Japanese kids all wear uniforms - as that's how they've grown up it doesn't seem to bother anyone. But the Japanese are a little more "don't stand out from the crowd" so I think it works more for that mindset.

My parents - mother, really - taught me how to dress and I always looked fine at school, much to my occasional horror. Simply forcing kids to do stuff harbors resentment - which is never good.
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post Aug 19 2010, 07:50 AM
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I voted yes. I believe it would lessen distractions. It's a great thing for parents too...a no brainer re: shopping and worrying what the kids are going to wear every morning.


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post Aug 19 2010, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(Homey @ Aug 19 2010, 08:50 AM) *

I voted yes. I believe it would lessen distractions. It's a great thing for parents too...a no brainer re: shopping and worrying what the kids are going to wear every morning.

My mother would strongly disagree with that. Back-to-school time was one of her favorite times, as she'd drag me from Sears to Penneys to Carsons. Isn't deciding what kids are going to do.eat, wear, etc. part of a parent's job AS a parent?
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post Aug 20 2010, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(Tim @ Aug 19 2010, 10:41 PM) *

My mother would strongly disagree with that. Back-to-school time was one of her favorite times, as she'd drag me from Sears to Penneys to Carsons. Isn't deciding what kids are going to do.eat, wear, etc. part of a parent's job AS a parent?

Yes and no, Tim. Some kids will still borrow clothing from their friends, and change as soon as they're out of their parents' sight. Sure, they risk being caught, but to them, it's worth it to dress in a way they feel expresses themselves.
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QUOTE(JHeath @ Aug 20 2010, 04:45 PM) *

Yes and no, Tim. Some kids will still borrow clothing from their friends, and change as soon as they're out of their parents' sight. Sure, they risk being caught, but to them, it's worth it to dress in a way they feel expresses themselves.


Um - how does that change decisions parents make? It would be my opinion that it's a parent's job to decide what a kid wears - up to a certain age anyway. Once they're out the door there's not a lot one can do - IMO.
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post Aug 20 2010, 06:20 PM
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Voted no. It would stifle creativity and individualism. School should have a dress code and actively enforce it.


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post Aug 23 2010, 08:32 AM
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Regarding Jen & Tim's tete-a-tete....

My parents are very strong Christians, and while I went to public school, my parents regulated everything I wore. Dad didn't think girls should wear casual clothes to school and my school wardrobe consisted of skirts, dresses, slacks and blouses. No t's and jeans for me..... at least not at school anyway.

Now, being a high-schooler in the 80's that wasn't always bad cause of the fashion trend, but what my parents bought me were "church clothes," not school clothes.

That being said, we lived three blocks from St. A's, and on the way to school, I would duck into the hospital's public restroom, pull the jeans and t-shirt out of the bottom of my book bag (buried under the school books and folders), quickly change and stuff those church clothes in my bag. At school, I'd hang them up in my locker so they wouldn't wrinkle, and after school, stop at Howard's (remember them? Oh, the fries were the BEST) and change back into my approved clothing.

Yes, I was a rebel all the way back to 7th grade. laugh.gif If I had been allowed to express that one little bit of individuality, I don't think I would have been as rebellious as I was.


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post Aug 23 2010, 09:46 AM
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I voted no. I agree with Ang that showing individuality is good. The current dress code is very fair...it just isn't enforced. Enforce the dress code and allow students to wear school appropriate wear.
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post Aug 25 2010, 01:32 AM
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I don't get the distraction angle. Should we give all the boys military cuts and all the girls near-military cuts to avoid hair distraction? Life is full of distractions. What better place to learn how to deal with them than school?
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post Aug 26 2010, 01:08 PM
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By distractions I mean kids worrying if they have the right outfit on, the right label, trying to keep up, or being bullied by not having cool clothes. That's what I meant by distractions. Wearing a uniform, all of those types of social stigmas would be avoided. Children can show their true individualism by achieving better grades and creativity in the arts, etc. I think true and healthy competition should be displayed in a intellectual manner, not by the clothes the parents can afford. JMO


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post Aug 26 2010, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE(Homey @ Aug 26 2010, 02:08 PM) *

By distractions I mean kids worrying if they have the right outfit on, the right label, trying to keep up, or being bullied by not having cool clothes. That's what I meant by distractions. Wearing a uniform, all of those types of social stigmas would be avoided. Children can show their true individualism by achieving better grades and creativity in the arts, etc. I think true and healthy competition should be displayed in a intellectual manner, not by the clothes the parents can afford. JMO



I get your point - but to me that's all just prep for real life.

If memory serves from my school days if they really want to avoid distraction they'll make all the girls duct-tape their breasts flat.

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post Aug 26 2010, 05:09 PM
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You may be right Tim, but in my view, kids grow up way too fast by virtue of what they are exposed to. I don't know how it is over there, but there is much more to worry about than girls boobs. How about those dudes with pants hanging around their thighs. Who wants to see what's under there? Girls with tank tops, no bras, navel piercings, tattoos, etc. I don't know if you are aware of the drop out numbers, or the kids that can't spell when they graduate, but it's really no joking matter. If the discipline isn't there, kids will go with what is "allowed" and take it a step further. I realize teens need to express themselves, but what we really need is structure in order for them to "learn" and if it's a free for all, that can't be conducive for learning. I was pretty liberal with my kids and they still rebelled...teens need to explore...but the classroom isn't the place.
Tim, you were blessed with a good family and mother who cared what you looked like when you went to school...some kids don't have the luxury of a caring family. What they experience is a living nightmare in some cases. School can be their saving grace. Bottom line, kids crave structure, rules and guidelines. They will thrive if they know what is expected of them.
Tim, they get a prep for real life on the playgrounds, downtime, movies and t.v....that should be plenty enough.


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